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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Mage2k » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:51 pm

With regards to your 2007 mbp, I bet it wasn't actually frozen after the restart for the update but was rather still installing 4 years worth of updates and when you forced a shutdown on it that left some stuff half installed or half removed. Re-running the update and letting it take it's time to do its thing would likely have fixed your problems. The lesson learned here should not be to avoid the software updates but rather to keep up with them.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Theo Void » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:18 pm

simpleton wrote:I'll never understand why you "guys" throw money away to support an elitist cult of personality. :roll:
Because Man!!!!!

They're made of aluminum and there's a glowing apple on the front!!!! JEEEEEEZ!

Those 2 things alone are worth the $2,900.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by doghouse » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:37 pm

Rationalizer wrote:I don't have any of those problems with my PC.
I don't have any of those problems with my MBP, either.

One thing to do is never boot the computer or bring it out of sleep unless everything is connected the same as it was before. Windows will get confused if you plug into a different USB port, both Mac and Windows can get unhappy when you hook something up while some MIDI or audio application is running.

Do you have the latest drivers for all your outboard gear?

Etc., etc.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by doghouse » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:38 pm

Sunsetter wrote:They're made of aluminum and there's a glowing apple on the front!!!! JEEEEEEZ!
Those 2 things alone are worth the $2,900.
My MacBook Pro was only $1000 and it runs Live just fine.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by nowtime » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:45 pm

arafel wrote:You are comparing an old 2007 MBP to a 2011 MBP.
A lot will be different, not just the OS.
Software Update will have nothing to do with this.. as you did not use this on your new 2011 lappy.
10.68 is not 'the only variable'.. your dealing with an entirely different model of laptop.. 4 years and a couple generations apart.

If audio/midi Setup shows only one Behringer device...
Ahhh.. well...
Then the 2011 lappy is only seeing one Behringer device....
That explains why one is 'not working'.

USB connection might be spotty (old cables, etc).
Check your USB connections/ connectors.
Try each Behringer on a separate USB port.
Determine if each on is fine on their own.
You will need to determine if this EC24 USB card is not playing well with your new lappy for some reason, or it is broken.

You really are starting this troubleshooting at ground zero here.
Hope is goes well.
Funny thing is, I did not use Migration Assistant, but freshly installed all software and latest drivers. Perhaps it's a coincidence that I am having USB problems on both. I foolishly cloned my 2007 AFTER the failed update incident and BEFORE I successfully updated to 10.6.8. So I do not have 10.6.0 to go back to.

I did in fact have to use the software update on the 2011. Perhaps I should do another update on top of it, there is probably SOMETHING Apple wants me to update.

Good call on trying each Behringer separately.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by nowtime » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:48 pm

doghouse wrote:
Rationalizer wrote:I don't have any of those problems with my PC.
I don't have any of those problems with my MBP, either.

One thing to do is never boot the computer or bring it out of sleep unless everything is connected the same as it was before. Windows will get confused if you plug into a different USB port, both Mac and Windows can get unhappy when you hook something up while some MIDI or audio application is running.

Do you have the latest drivers for all your outboard gear?

Etc., etc.
My 2007 would always freeze or fuck up unless I removed all USB and FW cables before going to sleep and waited till it was awake or booted before plugging anything in. If I followed this behaviour, everything worked great. Strange how we have moody computers.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by nowtime » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:50 pm

cids wrote:Seems like your software got corrupted, please download and install the delta update for 10.6.8 and make sure that any drivers you're using are up-to-date...

And don't believe the "my PC is working fine" crap, your Mac should do what it is supposed to do!
"Delta update" that's a new term for me, will look into that.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Sibanger » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:57 am

twisted-space wrote:
cids wrote:Let's try to give some advice to solve the issues, instead of bashing...

Absolutely, there's no need for bashing.



Best advice I can give is.............................
buy a pc.

Lets not start bashing, like saying things like 'Apple sucks'. :roll:

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by twisted-space » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:35 am

Sibanger wrote:
twisted-space wrote:
cids wrote:Let's try to give some advice to solve the issues, instead of bashing...

Absolutely, there's no need for bashing.



Best advice I can give is.............................
buy a pc.

Lets not start bashing, like saying things like 'Apple sucks'. :roll:

I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Piplodocus » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:08 am

Sunsetter wrote:
simpleton wrote:I'll never understand why you "guys" throw money away to support an elitist cult of personality. :roll:
Because Man!!!!!

They're made of aluminum and there's a glowing apple on the front!!!! JEEEEEEZ!

Those 2 things alone are worth the $2,900.
The Aluminium is worth $50, and the apple-shaped hole so you can see the back of your screen backlight $2850? :D

That's useful that apple-shaped hole. When my backlight died I could shine a torch through it so I could find my mouse pointer, select Live and save my live set! :)

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Theo Void » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:05 pm

Piplodocus wrote:
Sunsetter wrote:
simpleton wrote:I'll never understand why you "guys" throw money away to support an elitist cult of personality. :roll:
Because Man!!!!!

They're made of aluminum and there's a glowing apple on the front!!!! JEEEEEEZ!

Those 2 things alone are worth the $2,900.
The Aluminium is worth $50, and the apple-shaped hole so you can see the back of your screen backlight $2850? :D

That's useful that apple-shaped hole. When my backlight died I could shine a torch through it so I could find my mouse pointer, select Live and save my live set! :)

Oh ya. It must be OSX, thats OS is worth like $1700! I have yet to upgrade to LION because w/o Live my computer is useless!!!

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by Tysonviolin » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:25 pm

Like school on sundays

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by HorusProject » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:33 pm

Sunsetter wrote:
simpleton wrote:I'll never understand why you "guys" throw money away to support an elitist cult of personality. :roll:
Because Man!!!!!

They're made of aluminum and there's a glowing apple on the front!!!! JEEEEEEZ!

Those 2 things alone are worth the $2,900.
the glowing apple does make me feel all warm and gooey inside :lol:
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Re: Apple sucks

Post by sporkles » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:17 pm

I recently had to reinstall all my peripherals (including all controllers, mouse, keyboard, etc.). All I did was unplug everything and not use the computer over a weekend. I even made sure to plug everything into the exact same ports they were plugged into originally (cause I've been down that road before). This was a semi-custom PC laptop; I still have no idea what happened. All I'm saying is: sooner or later, things will start cocking up with a computer - Mac or PC.

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Re: Apple sucks

Post by HorusProject » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:54 pm

yeah have you seen the Matrix?
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