Mixing on Headphones

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Mixing on Headphones

Post by Theo Void » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:43 am

Whats up everyone?
I have some pretty decent monitors and get good results using them. MAudio bx5a'a.
That said, I live in an apt and I work 8am-4pm, so my music making time falls in the evening meaning I can't rock out how I'd like to in my apt. w/o neighbors beating down my door and calling the cops!
I've read that it's not a good idea to mix in headphones but I really don't have a choice ATM. I have some Seinheiser HD 201's which aren't too great.
Can anyone recommend some good quality studio headphones for mixing? Does anyone have experience w/ this. If so, I'd probably spend $2-300 on some, if it was definitely worth it.

I will still, of course, be checking my mixes on the monitors, but until I move, I'll be mixing in the cans!

Also, any tips on working this way?

Thanx in advance

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by timothyallan » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:44 am

Don't do it often would be my tip.

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by 3dot... » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:42 am

good for frequency matching...
but you can't finish a mix imo..without high volume speakers..
and low volume speakers..
(in an acoustically treated room)
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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by EnjoyRC » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:40 am

This would be a great solution for you.

Focusrite's VRM box. http://www.focusrite.com/products/vrm/vrm_box
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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by timothyallan » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:44 am

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by EnjoyRC » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:07 pm

timothyallan wrote:Image
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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by timothyallan » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:15 pm

EnjoyRC wrote:
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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by 3dot... » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:24 pm

AGREED!!! :lol:
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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by savyurrecords » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:05 pm

Unicorns!! so full of win!!
I agree you can't cheat physics.

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by Warrior Bob » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:39 pm

Quick, somebody recommend a MOTU product :)

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by Theo Void » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Hmm. Very nice! I like the VRM thing. Maybe have to check that out. Also, the unicorns! I've never never tried mixing on unicorns, but I've heard good things!

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by Dr. Fluffenstein » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:43 am

If you're going to use headphones I wouldn't recommend using them for long durations (half an hour max at low volume), I started noticing a bit of tinnitus after doing so myself. It's a good thing I noticed it early and stopped. With that said I really like the AKG K240 MKII's. I have absolutely no fatigue after using them for long sessions and my ears don't ring after (as long as I keep the volume reasonably low). They're semi-open though so background noise might throw your mix off, if you can hear computer/laptop fan or AC noise through them I wouldn't recommend them. Hihats also sound quiet with them, but I think that's why they're fatigue free. They can also sound a little muddy at 100-200 Hz at times (or warm if you're the optimistic type :) ). I'm very happy with their low-end detail and presence. I'm thinking of buying the K271's, which are the closed version of 240's. That might help with hearing more detail and blocking out noise.

My other pair of phones are Shure SRH440's, they're really revealing (to the point where drums sound choppy if you don't have any reverb applied). Unfortunately they sound really bright when powered by a laptop, and you might have to turn them up to hear the bass clearly (but then the highs will be painfully loud). I suspect they would be more balanced with an amp.

Best thing to do is try them out yourself and return them if they aren't working out, you should buy them at a place that has a hassle-free return policy with enough time to give them a proper test run.

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Re: Mixing on Headphones

Post by Theo Void » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:20 am

WOW! Thanks for all the replies guys!
I knew Live Forums would come thru!

I really dont have a choice. If I want to make music.(And I rally do!) I gotta figure out something!

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