Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by kitekrazy » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:59 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Mac is not best choice for digital audio workstation anymore.
  • Pricy
  • Ordinray unsupportive customer serivice
  • Charging too high price for customize
  • Rediculous I/O port strategy - Mac head "Hey! Where is my firewire port?!"
  • Bad designed system - Mac head "Wats teh hell is going on! My mac is smoking!"
  • Bad cost-performance
  • Low performance
http://www.dawbench.com/win7-v-osx-6.htm

Don't waste your time and money :lol:
I agree to a point. I'm a PC person. I use desktops that I've built and don't care for laptops. If I were to use a laptop, I would consider a Mac before PC.

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Pasha » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:50 pm

Mac/PC whatever. Each day someone posts something on the net. You read it and think that's the Universal Truth.
Real freedom comes from choice. Real freedom comes from comparison and informed choice.
I have both. Win7 needs to be nurtured to get turned into a DAW and in that case, it performs better.
However for Music I prefer using my iMac and old Macbook because I do not have to tune anything and that's
what sold me the Apple idea.

my 2 cents.
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Machinesworking » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:13 pm

Obviously pencilrocket is an amateur or he would have known that Macs sound better!
Sure you can have your home studio PC, but in the real pro world people use Macs because the music translates to every hi fidelity stereo system at the highest quality. PC's have "pro" DAWs like Fruity Loops for making your video game music. No pro uses Pro Tools on a PC, it's all Mac, and there's a reason why! Macs have Digital Performer <- proper name for a pro DAW, which recently won a sound quality test using Macbook Pros, because even Macbook Pros sound better than your home built or Dell toy machine! :P

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by mrobare » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:22 pm

dylandigits wrote:Thanks for settling that. Now: What kind of bear is best? .
the kind that isn't chasing you down for lunch hehe

or did you mean beer
i don't drink
if i drink i turn into a idiot
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Grandmasterbird » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:32 pm


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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by nathannn » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:32 pm

Machinesworking wrote:Obviously pencilrocket is an amateur or he would have known that Macs sound better!
Sure you can have your home studio PC, but in the real pro world people use Macs because the music translates to every hi fidelity stereo system at the highest quality. PC's have "pro" DAWs like Fruity Loops for making your video game music. No pro uses Pro Tools on a PC, it's all Mac, and there's a reason why! Macs have Digital Performer <- proper name for a pro DAW, which recently won a sound quality test using Macbook Pros, because even Macbook Pros sound better than your home built or Dell toy machine! :P
i just did a test to see if you are right about this, i took a dell laptop and a macbook pro, set them side by side (no need to power them on for this test) and i started asking them questions. from my test the macbooks answers did sound a little better. the mac book had a more soothing voice. so yeah macbooks sound better. the pc didn't really want to talk.
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Machinesworking » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:06 pm

nathannn wrote: i just did a test to see if you are right about this, i took a dell laptop and a macbook pro, set them side by side (no need to power them on for this test) and i started asking them questions. from my test the macbooks answers did sound a little better. the mac book had a more soothing voice. so yeah macbooks sound better. the pc didn't really want to talk.
When you stick your hand up something into it's guts all the time it sorts of ruins the friendship, or kindles it!

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Rave » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:20 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Mac is not best choice for digital audio workstation anymore.
  • Pricy
  • Ordinray unsupportive customer serivice
  • Charging too high price for customize
  • Rediculous I/O port strategy - Mac head "Hey! Where is my firewire port?!"
  • Bad designed system - Mac head "Wats teh hell is going on! My mac is smoking!"
  • Bad cost-performance
  • Low performance
http://www.dawbench.com/win7-v-osx-6.htm

Don't waste your time and money :lol:
I am sold.
Anyone want to buy one of my 3 macs.

Pencil armed with those amazing pcs would u be so kind to share your music before anyone accuses u of being all mouth and no action. :)

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by nathannn » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:51 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
nathannn wrote: i just did a test to see if you are right about this, i took a dell laptop and a macbook pro, set them side by side (no need to power them on for this test) and i started asking them questions. from my test the macbooks answers did sound a little better. the mac book had a more soothing voice. so yeah macbooks sound better. the pc didn't really want to talk.
When you stick your hand up something into it's guts all the time it sorts of ruins the friendship, or kindles it!
i guess, i was always performing surgery on my old pal the pc.
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by Neon Breath » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:02 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Mac is not best choice for digital audio workstation anymore.
  • Pricy
  • Ordinray unsupportive customer serivice
  • Charging too high price for customize
  • Rediculous I/O port strategy - Mac head "Hey! Where is my firewire port?!"
  • Bad designed system - Mac head "Wats teh hell is going on! My mac is smoking!"
  • Bad cost-performance
  • Low performance
http://www.dawbench.com/win7-v-osx-6.htm

Don't waste your time and money :lol:
OK daddy, thanks for the advise. :roll:

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by xzusa8ky » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:07 pm

2be wrote:I just don't get how people can have such feelings towards a OS. Use whatever you think is best.
I own both a Windows 7 desktop and a 2011 MacBook Pro and both have their uses. In terms of real-live (audio) perfomance, my MacBook is winning.
+5 :D
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by xzusa8ky » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:11 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Mac is not best choice for digital audio workstation anymore.
  • Pricy
  • Ordinray unsupportive customer serivice
  • Charging too high price for customize
  • Rediculous I/O port strategy - Mac head "Hey! Where is my firewire port?!"
  • Bad designed system - Mac head "Wats teh hell is going on! My mac is smoking!"
  • Bad cost-performance
  • Low performance
http://www.dawbench.com/win7-v-osx-6.htm

Don't waste your time and money :lol:
Buy your PC and support Bill Gates if you want, but stop whinning if can't afford to have a better taste..... 8O
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by djadonis206 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:36 pm

Pencil rocket reminds me of that scene out of Pulp Fiction.

English muthafucka, ENGLISH! Do you speak it?! English!!!

His grasp of the written English language is inspiring.

You should always pay extra special attention to those who purposefully use the language, correctly.
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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by masterblasterofdisaster » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:15 pm

pencilrocket wrote:Mac is not best choice for digital audio workstation anymore.
  • Pricy
  • Ordinray unsupportive customer serivice
  • Charging too high price for customize
  • Rediculous I/O port strategy - Mac head "Hey! Where is my firewire port?!"
  • Bad designed system - Mac head "Wats teh hell is going on! My mac is smoking!"
  • Bad cost-performance
  • Low performance
http://www.dawbench.com/win7-v-osx-6.htm

Don't waste your time and money :lol:

No. The correct answer as to which is better is, "it depends".

For me, the lack of a proper shell is enough of a reason to avoid using a Windows machine unless I have to.
Any flavor of Linux would make me happier for my programming and scientific computing endeavors.
OS X is a reasonable compromise for my needs since it's built on top of free BSD, provides a rather slick user experience, along with a large enough selection of useful commercial apps.

But again, that's just me. Somebody's grandmother or a gamer might think otherwise, and that's OK.

Be thankful for having choices, make one, and then get on with getting on.

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Re: Mac is no longer for todays DAW. It's obviously old fasioned

Post by musick » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:23 pm

Thought the mods don't allow mac vs pc debates here, we know how those end :lol:
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