Live 9 - Prediction

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Live 9 - Prediction

Post by looprication » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:35 pm

Hey All,

My prediction is that Live 9 will be announced at NAMM 2012 in January. Here's my evidence:

[*]Ableton Live 8 was announced at NAMM in 2009.
[*]It has been almost three years since Live 8 came out.
[*]Max 6 just launched.
[*]The longest period Ableton has waited in between major versions until now was about 1.5 years.
[*]NI has been putting a ton of effort into turning Maschine into a competitor for Live.

I think it's great that Ableton hasn't tried to rapid-fire out a new (major) version of Live like they used to. Maybe I'm wrong, the economy seems to be getting a little better here in the US but everything in Europe and elsewhere seems to be more up in the air. Then again, I'm a producer, not an economist ;)

I'm really hoping I'm right, and that they're either going to confirm or deny my additional suspicion that the next wave of Ableton-specific hardware is coming out soon as well. I just sold an older piece of equipment I wasn't using anymore, so I'm either getting an APC-40 in January or waiting until the next thing comes out.

Cheers,

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by Komodovaran » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:39 pm

I'm not sure how a drum machine can compete with a DAW?

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by looprication » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:18 pm

Komodovaran wrote:I'm not sure how a drum machine can compete with a DAW?
Yeah, I know, it's stupid, but they're positioning it as the center of your studio, you don't need anything else, blah blah blah...

I guess the software also does sequencing but after they killed Kore I'm not touching Maschine with a ten foot pole.

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by JuanSOLO » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:11 pm

A couple years ago NI said they were no longer attending NAMM, and were going to rely on their website for showcasing. I thought I remembered Ableton saying they were no longer doing NAMM shortly after that, and they didn't attend the last shows.

I'll be surprised if thats where they reveal any Live 9 info, but I would not be surprised if they release some info around the same time.

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:43 pm

looprication wrote:
Komodovaran wrote:I'm not sure how a drum machine can compete with a DAW?
Yeah, I know, it's stupid, but they're positioning it as the center of your studio, you don't need anything else, blah blah blah...

I guess the software also does sequencing but after they killed Kore I'm not touching Maschine with a ten foot pole.

Cheers,

-ix
You summed it up. Love NI, but as always it seems the bean counters there are ruthless and have a scorched earth policy about backwards compatibility.
I'm experiencing some issues with Kore in my other DAW Digital Performer now, and I doubt that by the time they roll out the 64 bit version it will be a stable and workable solution for performance. I based my live instrument setup around Kore as it was very arguably a better solution than Racks, but that's turned out to be a mistake as soon minor bugs will pop up that make it useless for a live situation. I don't think that's debatable.

I give mass kudos to Ableton for not working like that. Let's hope that Cycling 74 and AAS remain good partners.

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:51 pm

Oh, and I somewhat agree, that Live 9 will come out this coming year. My guess is an announcement around the time of NAMM, and a public beta by May or June.
This gives them all the North American college students on Summer break to do their beta testing for them. :)

Logic and Digital Performer are also due for upgrades to Logic X and DP8 respectively, been over two years for those two as well. Cubase, Pro Tools and Sonar got upgrades recently if I recall correctly.

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by grooverb » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:07 pm

I'm hoping the touch screen shenanigans will come in with 9 so it can iPad.

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by looprication » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:35 am

grooverb wrote:I'm hoping the touch screen shenanigans will come in with 9 so it can iPad.
Ooh I like that...
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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by DangerousDave » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:34 am

I thought I read somewhere that they were in Alpha right now, meaning that Beta and thus a release date can't be too far off.
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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by kanuck » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:07 am

i could care less about when they're releasing it. But i'm really stoked for it. Ableton being quiet for this long is making me anticipate something really raelly really big :)

hoepfully a lot of people's dreams will come true

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by golemus » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:47 pm

DangerousDave wrote:I thought I read somewhere that they were in Alpha right now, meaning that Beta and thus a release date can't be too far off.
Where did you read that?

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by Piplodocus » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:32 pm

I reckon they'll probably say something in Jan...

They used to come out about every 1.5 years. This one's been 3 years, but it'll be 64-bit so takes twice as long to program as the 32-bit one innit! :mrgreen:

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by nuxnamon » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:39 pm

I'm no Nostradamus or Edgar Cayce, but i predict the following:

1. when ableton does announce ableton 9, look instantly for a thread about the shortcomings of the program and future wishes for Live 10..

2. 49er's will upset Green Bay in the playoff's..

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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by yop44 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:56 pm

Probably 2012 Jan 16th
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Re: Live 9 - Prediction

Post by Rationalizer » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm

I predict that I won't predict when Live 9 is about to be released.
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