Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by pencilrocket » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:33 am

Machinesworking wrote:
hmj wrote: Ableton is made to be stable in live performance settings and it's got the most advanced production tools of any DAW. They achieve that by cutting corners in other places.
I'm absolutely certain that you don't know this as a fact, it's pure conjecture on your part.
If you have a basis to say that they are conjecture, how do you apply your basis to this truth?

Live obviously (sometimes apparently) consume far more CPU resources than that of other DAWs'. How can it be explained other than that this is intended to make it stable in live performance?


Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core
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CPU overloading so much its offensive
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pops/clicks where clips meet - Live 8 cross fade problem?
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Live 8 - Extreme latency and pops and clicks on all VSTi's
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112141
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http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=143288
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by Tarekith » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:02 am

That has nothing to do with sound quality though. The ability to freely move around and edit audio, effects, and tracks without audio dropouts does not mean that sound quality is suffering as a result.

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by pencilrocket » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:37 am

Tarekith wrote:That has nothing to do with sound quality though. The ability to freely move around and edit audio, effects, and tracks without audio dropouts does not mean that sound quality is suffering as a result.
Then you also admit that Ableton is made to be stable in live performance settings, though Machinesworking may call it pure conjecture. I can't judge whether this setting will affect the sound or not because I have no basis. All I can say is that is one of unique factor of the process in Ableton which we don't have to consider when in other DAWs.
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by esky » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:16 am

Here is a gearslutz.com 143 pages discussion about mixing ITB and a possible reason why people don't get good results out of their DAW (not only Ableton). A little ot maybe but interesting anyway...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much- ... tored.html

Edit: Just read the first page of course... :)

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by 3dot... » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:06 pm

yeah well.. it says he endorses 'nuendo'...
so...not really an objective statement..
besides..he loves his 'Stuart Spector' bass..
which imo..is the most disgusting bass sound on the planet..
and I really don't like the mentioned tracks he'd mixed
oh well..to each his own..
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by Rotter3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:27 pm

UKRuss wrote:What a cock. Katy Perrys music is like having sand rubbed in your japseye. cockwash.
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by beats me » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:20 pm

Forming your opinion on production quality based purely on not liking the artist/genre/commercial success = :?

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by 3dot... » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:30 pm

yes...and of course we all know that..
:? = :lol: + 2 :wink:( :twisted: / :evil: )

so it goes without saying..
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by Greeg » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:08 pm

Damn - I need to uninstall Live :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by justchris86 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:51 pm

then uninstall live and get what ever program this guy gets paid to use.
while you are at switch from what ever computer you are using because some one said its better
also sell your car cause your car sucks. some one told me there is a better car.
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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by hmj » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:15 pm

beats me wrote:Forming your opinion on production quality based purely on not liking the artist/genre/commercial success = :?
+1

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by T.I.M. » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:22 pm

You could of just did a null test.

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by T.I.M. » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:23 pm

3dot... wrote:yes...and of course we all know that..
:? = :lol: + 2 :wink:( :twisted: / :evil: )

so it goes without saying..
hahaha

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by justchris86 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:39 pm

3dot... wrote:yes...and of course we all know that..
:? = :lol: + 2 :wink:( :twisted: / :evil: )

so it goes without saying..

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Re: Katy Perry Mixer - "Ableton sounded terrible" (SoundonSound)

Post by regretfullySaid » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:49 pm

like having sand rubbed in your japseye. cockwash.
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