Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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friend_kami
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by friend_kami » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:49 pm
fisto wrote:Linear Phase wrote:hoffman2k wrote:Every new kid on the block was going to empty this place. Reaper, Renoise, Sonar, lifetime updates with Image-Line, Logic, Cubase and now Bitwig.
Sonar is an old program. Hardly a new kid on the block. Cakewalk started in 1987.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(company) Sonar is an old man.
FLstudio and Renoise are kinda, "the totally different," DAWs.
Reaper was supposed to be the killer of Pro-Tools, Ableton, Sonar, and anything, "corporate daw." But its workflow is crummy. Its gui poor. Its audio engine more like Audacity than Pro-Tools.
I've got a Reaper License.. I'd love to sell it, but I don't have hopes.
Man, you clearly have no idea at all about Reaper. In the meantime I've become a Reaper-Power User (thanks to the abes for fucking up Live
and can say that REAPER IS THE KILLER of all other DAWs (besides Live-Session).
you just can't match that workflow with any other daw because you can make it work how YOU WANT IT TO WORK. So to me it seems that you have just tried to use the default Reaper-Installation and that's it. Well thats one of the big mistaker every Reaper-Newbie makes....he does not take time to configure it the right way for ones own workflow...poor you...you have missed the holy grail of AudioSoftware
and please don't talk about Reaper's Audio-Engine as it is just perfectly clear sound with working PDC and an amazing Resource management, so shut up dude
pretty much this, yes.
here's a virtual beer to you my friend: cheers.
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Linear Phase
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by Linear Phase » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:05 pm
Hey... I will buy the beir, just keep your reaper fetish to youself
Go play with each others mouse or something
Linear Phase has left the building..
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nuxnamon
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by nuxnamon » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:16 pm
fisto wrote:Linear Phase wrote:hoffman2k wrote:Every new kid on the block was going to empty this place. Reaper, Renoise, Sonar, lifetime updates with Image-Line, Logic, Cubase and now Bitwig.
Sonar is an old program. Hardly a new kid on the block. Cakewalk started in 1987.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(company) Sonar is an old man.
FLstudio and Renoise are kinda, "the totally different," DAWs.
Reaper was supposed to be the killer of Pro-Tools, Ableton, Sonar, and anything, "corporate daw." But its workflow is crummy. Its gui poor. Its audio engine more like Audacity than Pro-Tools.
I've got a Reaper License.. I'd love to sell it, but I don't have hopes.
Man, you clearly have no idea at all about Reaper. In the meantime I've become a Reaper-Power User (thanks to the abes for fucking up Live
and can say that REAPER IS THE KILLER of all other DAWs (besides Live-Session).
you just can't match that workflow with any other daw because you can make it work how YOU WANT IT TO WORK. So to me it seems that you have just tried to use the default Reaper-Installation and that's it. Well thats one of the big mistaker every Reaper-Newbie makes....he does not take time to configure it the right way for ones own workflow...poor you...you have missed the holy grail of AudioSoftware
and please don't talk about Reaper's Audio-Engine as it is just perfectly clear sound with working PDC and an amazing Resource management, so shut up dude
I probably fall into the category of not taking the time to configure Reaper when I demo'd it.. Maybe i didn't give it enough chance or should have read the manual.. But on the same note, I did the same thing with Studio One with no reading the manual and it just made more sense to me and I was up and running in no time.. But I'm sure Reaper is more customizeable.. Still, ableton for most of the production.. mixing/mastering goes to S1 now..
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friend_kami
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by friend_kami » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:29 pm
Linear Phase wrote:Hey... I will buy the beir, just keep your reaper fetish to youself
Go play with each others mouse or something
that would be mice.
unless you did some sort of semantic wordplay joke there.
in which case: well played, sir.
edit: or madame, for that matter.
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fisto
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by fisto » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:42 pm
ahaha, funny talk
Cheers
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fisto
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by fisto » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:44 pm
Studio One VS Reaper = Wanking VS fucking
Wanking is easy but not so fullfilling as fucking
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friend_kami
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by friend_kami » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:06 pm
fisto wrote:Studio One VS Reaper = Wanking VS fucking
Wanking is easy but not so fullfilling as fucking
good one
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simmerdown
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by simmerdown » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:22 pm
reaper can render mp3...+1 for that basic ish
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donmich
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by donmich » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:55 pm
fisto wrote:Studio One VS Reaper = Wanking VS fucking
Wanking is easy but not so fullfilling as fucking
Or Studio One is like f-cking a very hot but somewhat less deep woman and Reaper is like f-cking an ugly woman you have to look at the rest of the day but who has a good personality and knows some stuff in bed.
Btw, does Reaper have folder tracks you can cut up and move around like Logic? S1's folders are not choppable. They run song-length. That is the main reason I didnt take more interest in it. I f-cked her a couple of times and went back to my girlfriend (ableton) and my regular booty call (Logic - she's a bit high maintenance but mostly worth it).
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3dot...
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by 3dot... » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:18 pm
REAPER is by far the most feature rich DAW out there...
and as benchmark tests show... also the most CPU efficient..
the amount of options available is overwhelming at first..
going through the 'preferences' takes half a day..
but once you set it up the way you like it..
it's smooth sailing..
as far as "traditional" sequencers go.. Reaper's no.1 with a bullet..
it's a newcomer compared to PT and Cubase..
but manages to outdo them in most departments..
make macros..change all the keystroke functions.. make some new ones..
audio/midi streaming..
ReaMOTE allows to process fx on another machine in a network..
constant updates..
and gives you full power to customize it to your will..
if you're a coder :
you can write js fx...you can write 'extensions' to enhance your functionality..
you can access the API..
I can go on and on.. Reaper is vast..
all this while staying fairly under the commercial radar with almost 0 advertising..
the evaluation download is fully functional and without any limitations except a "nag screen"..
"evaluate" until you think you can spot 60$..
about 'studio1 free'.. tried it..
and well.. don't really see the advantage besides the polished GUI..
(which anyways becomes "transparent" after you'd stared at it for a week..)
as for workflow.. I really don't see the advantage.
someone care to educate me ?
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Machinesworking
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by Machinesworking » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:37 pm
For the record Reaper is as much of a CPU pig as Live in OSX.
Logic and DP7 beat the living piss out of Reaper CPU efficiency wise in OSX, so it's going to be interesting to see how DP8 on Windows does CPU wise.
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donmich
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by donmich » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:56 pm
3dot, do you know the answer to my folder tracks question?
I am aware of its high praise but havent explored it much and that was a while ago.
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simmerdown
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by simmerdown » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:15 pm
i was in reaper for 6 mos or so before finding Live
you guys are makin me think it could be good to try again, a few years ago it was a bit over my head, but now it sounds useful
how is the best way to use with Live, in a chain or whatever?
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3dot...
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by 3dot... » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:35 pm
donmich wrote:3dot, do you know the answer to my folder tracks question?
I am aware of its high praise but havent explored it much and that was a while ago.
well.. hadn't used logic.. but you can pretty much do anything..
and if it's useful..
you can bet someone already wrote an extension script for it..
I'd search for you but I really have no time now.. check the reaper forums..