ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by jellycaster » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:36 pm

well perhaps - understand that a version for mac is in beta, but i also understand it will be running in a windows shell or something similar - we will see. Performance mode does look interesting.

i am a big fan of fl - used it for years before i switched to mac and ableton. great application - particularly the midi editing

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by arafel » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Word.. Performance mode looks more like what I hope Session to be.
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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by agent314 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:37 pm

I like parts of FL Studio, but I just find the interface too clicky, and too far removed from everything else I use to be useful

Plus the buttons are all so small and close together. Fitt's Law, people!

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by starving student » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:59 pm

thats crazy though, too many remixes are going to come out of that thing, I hope maschine gets something like that.
the thing about fruity is they put stuff in that other apps have but they make it make more sense, try stepsequencing in any other app and then fruity or using a piano roll or ...... they usually fall down on the bang those pads crowd/workflow but this looks like it's going to change that

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by dna598 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:17 pm

that's crazy. Hurry up Ableton!

edit -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbVgPboZ ... re=related

aAh sheeit! 8O
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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by bassistheplace » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:55 am

so is fl studio mac still a thing?

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by Muzik 4 Machines » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:59 am

i cant believe they will use a shell, not after developping it for iOS

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by timothyallan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:47 am

It's wrapped using Crossover.

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by starving student » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:40 am

as long as it works

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by Evengy » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:40 am

arafel wrote:Word.. Performance mode looks more like what I hope Session to be.
bye =)

it looks nice, it´s new so you want it, hmm? ;> is it the same like bitwig now? alpha version and then rumours about all features are better than in live etc. it seems that the performance mode is configured with another workflow than in live or let me say "modes". in the core, the performance mode is doing what live does since.... ;)

like ableton said: competition is good

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by starving student » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:53 am

yeah what it's doing would be simple tweaks for live, but then again so would it be a simple tweak for native instruments to actually have a method of recording a performance other than that god awful scene structure thingy they have, or .... or..... or... the question is will these simple things be addressed. Fruity loops has a history of addressing the concerns of their user base while ableton and native have a history of making people wait eons for basics.

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by starving student » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:54 am

and even after all of that I'd still never give live up, but it sure doesn't mean Live won't have any company.

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by Sage » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:17 pm

Looks cool, but a one-trick-pony going by those videos.

Although I've not tried this, it is possible to alter the start position of a clip and it should be possible to trigger the clip at the same time, so there's no reason what was being done in the videos shouldn't already be possible in Live...

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Re: ableton should worry about fruity loops not bitwig

Post by dna598 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:32 pm

there's nothing there that "capture and insert scene" can't really do. but that somehow seems cumbersome now.

I must say this looks quite intuitive the way its layed out with your clips (containing automation ofcourse) on the left, and every chop of a clip becoming a new cell to trigger. For production it looks great!
I have never used fruity loops in my life though, and don't intend to, however...

it's an interesting take and really very useful by the looks of it. Can't wait to see how the "session view wars" pan out between the developers!

surely ableton will continue to have the best implementaion?! 8O
ctrl + left/right = select transient

ctrl + shift + left/right = select between transients

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