Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

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Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by alexjholland » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:09 am

Hey, I'm finally moving over to my Dropbox-synced setup for both Macs.

First stage was moving all my Ableton project files and instruments into Dropbox.

I also moved all my sample folders into my 'documents' folder, whereas previously they were in an 'Ableton' folder - because they're too big to sync.

Ableton now tells me it cannot find any of the samples for any of my music, whether they're straight drum samples or recorded guitars.

They're all sitting there on the same hard-drive, just in a slightly different folder. Autosearch doesn't find them.. I can individually find each one (there are hundreds) but even the function that says 'should I find the rest on the basis of where this was found' doesn't work.

This is so simple - it just shouldn't be an issue.

Like others, I'm getting really tired of Ableton. Bitwig seems that it will have everything covered that Ableton doesn't in terms of filesharing and I look forward to moving across when it's released.

In the meantime, can anyone help me tell Ableton how to find my samples that have literally just moved a few folders away?!

Thanks

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by pencilrocket » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:49 am

Then wait until bitfag will be released. Problem solved.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by alexjholland » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:08 am

No, I've spent hundreds on this software and expect it to work correctly.

Expecting Ableton to keep up with advances such as cloud-based syncing is one thing - but I did NOT spent £700 to be told it's going to collapse every time I move my sample folder!

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by shuutobi » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:38 am

Yeah, Ableton has always been quite horrible at finding missing files.

I can search for a file in explorer from "Location A," and it takes less than a second.
If I search for a the same file via Lives autofind, and start at the same directory, it may take 4 hours or something.

p.s. I have indexing on for that directory, and the files were just moved up one directory into a collect all "old" directory.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by timothyallan » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:45 am

pencilrocket wrote:Then wait until bitfag will be released. Problem solved.
I love that there's already a slagging name for it... until it's out though, it's more like vaporwig.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by 102455 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:47 am

What would be far more usable /convenient is for Live to have an assignable storage folder (listed in prefs) where the location could easily be updated
and from which Live could create a database file, allowing for lightning fast searches.

Much more useful for DJing purposes too.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by alexjholland » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:48 am

shuutobi, it's not just taking a while - after 40 minutes it announced it hadn't found anything! Now when I click to autosearch it takes around a minute, then tells me nothing was found.

Absolutely disgraceful. I'm seething!

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by shuutobi » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:16 am

alexjholland wrote:shuutobi, it's not just taking a while - after 40 minutes it announced it hadn't found anything! Now when I click to autosearch it takes around a minute, then tells me nothing was found.

Absolutely disgraceful. I'm seething!
That as well... Most of the time it finds nothing, and I have to manually find it.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by 3dot... » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:05 pm

in computers... there isn't such a thing as 'barely'...
it either moved or not ! proximity is not relevant..

point being ..it would be faster for you to just point out to live to where you've moved the files..
live does not keep indexes of all your hard drives
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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by LeifonMars » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:19 pm

3dot... wrote:in computers... there isn't such a thing as 'barely'...
My thoughts exactly.
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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by alexjholland » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:23 pm

Read my post. I have no problem with pointing Ableton in the new direction of my folder, which is all that should be required - but CAN'T.

It wants me to point to every single sample individually, and doing this once doesn't make it figure out where the rest are. I have 30 samples in the first project opened - and perhaps 100 projects.

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by 3dot... » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:46 pm

you have many files with the same name maybe?
otherwise..it does it automatically over here..
which version are you on?

btw I agree that lives search functions are less than ideal
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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by alexjholland » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:57 pm

My files have different names, are well organised - and NONE of them are found automatically!

Running the latest version of Live. I'll check, it's either that or a month or so old at most..

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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by 3dot... » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:03 pm

this is how I do
go to the missing files list..
above.. automatic search
(exclude search in library..)
point it to the directory..
and if all the files are there and have unique names..
it's done..
just hit save at the bottom.
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Re: Ableton cannot find samples that have barely moved?!

Post by cotdagoo » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:40 pm

3dot... wrote:this is how I do
go to the missing files list..
above.. automatic search
(exclude search in library..)
point it to the directory..
and if all the files are there and have unique names..
it's done..
just hit save at the bottom.
This usually works well for me too. Never had any issues finding samples unless they've been removed from the hard drive entirely.

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