clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

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F.B.
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clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by F.B. » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:27 pm

dear forum users,

I'm experiencing this super annoying issue witht the new 8.3 update.

when I play session view clips, what is stored in arrangement is played at the same time.

there's no difference between session and arrangement!!

it seems that the red "back to arrangement" button next to the ovr in the main bar doesn't function anymore.

wtf????

am I missing something????

I can't play around in the session view because the arrangement view clips play as well.

I'm about to go crazy :evil: :evil:

thank you very much for your help.

best.

F.B.

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by timothyallan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:36 pm

Sounds like a minor bug I could see easily being passed over in testing. Maybe file a report with the Abes?

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by crumhorn » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:55 pm

click on stop clips. Button
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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by F.B. » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:39 pm

crumhorn wrote:click on stop clips. Button
:?: :?: :?: :?:

sorry but this is really of no use.

happens again everytime I launch a new clip in session afterwards.

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by F.B. » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:42 pm

timothyallan wrote:Sounds like a minor bug I could see easily being passed over in testing. Maybe file a report with the Abes?
woulnd't really call this a "minor" bug.

I wrote to the support as well, but I'm looking forward to some tips here as well.

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by crumhorn » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:18 pm

F.B. wrote:
crumhorn wrote:click on stop clips. Button
:?: :?: :?: :?:

sorry but this is really of no use.

happens again everytime I launch a new clip in session afterwards.

Are we talking about the same button I wonder.

I'm talking about this one:

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When you click it the back to arrange button should light up red and all clips - including arrangement view clips should stop playing.

Don't click back to arrangement - it's the opposite of what you want.

Now if you launch a session clip it should play on it's own.

if it doesn't then you really have discovered a bug.
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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by F.B. » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:44 pm

crumhorn wrote:
F.B. wrote:
crumhorn wrote:click on stop clips. Button
:?: :?: :?: :?:

sorry but this is really of no use.

happens again everytime I launch a new clip in session afterwards.

When you click it the back to arrange button should light up red and all clips - including arrangement view clips should stop playing.

Don't click back to arrangement - it's the opposite of what you want.

Now if you launch a session clip it should play on it's own.

if it doesn't then you really have discovered a bug.
I don't usually click on the red button.

it lights up by itself and becomes red every time I'm in session view - with the arrangement clips playing - and I start any of the clips in the tracks of the session view.

but this is obvious and it has always been like this in ableton live.

I don't really know what the "stop clips" button has got to do with my issue.

if I click on it, the clips stop. and then???? who cares.

the problem is I'm hearing what's there in arrangement even if a clip in session is triggered and starts playing.

the red button is not working.

I believe this is indeed a bug.

thanks.

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by dazzer » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:00 pm

F.B. wrote:
I don't really know what the "stop clips" button has got to do with my issue.
It's got everything to do with your issue - or at least finding out if you have one or not.

Desired behaviour is that after pressing "stop clips' any subsequent triggering of a clip in session view shouldn't trigger anything from arrange. If it does, you indeed have an issue.

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by dazzer » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:11 pm

timothyallan wrote:Sounds like a minor bug I could see easily being passed over in testing.
:!:

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by massenmedium » Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:36 pm

op wrote:the problem is I'm hearing what's there in arrangement even if a clip in session is triggered and starts playing.
a question that i don't think has been asked about this - do you mean on the same track or on other tracks?
dazzer wrote:
timothyallan wrote:Sounds like a minor bug I could see easily being passed over in testing.
:!:
Yeah, bit hard to fathom what tim meant there. Irony? Sarcasm? :-)

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by Hermanus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:30 pm

oh oh oh

If you got recordings in arrangement view:

in session view, if you launch a clip on track 1 it will cut what's playing in arrangement on track 1 but not clips on the other tracks.

Do you mean it plays both clips [session/arrange'] on the same track?
You're not very clear.

Don't bother, mail the support and create a bug pack report.
Then the smartest thing to do, use version 8.2.8 :idea:

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by massenmedium » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:37 pm

I just asked that same question. ;-)

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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by crumhorn » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:27 am

Just hit the f#£%ing stop clips button and see what happens ffs.
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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by 3dot... » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:38 am

timothyallan wrote:Sounds like a minor bug I could see easily being passed over in testing. Maybe file a report with the Abes?
:lol:
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Re: clips playing BOTH in session AND arrangement in 8.3

Post by 3dot... » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:42 am

crumhorn wrote:Just hit the f#£%ing stop clips button and see what happens ffs.
I think you should do what the man says... you've made him angry..

besides.. how hard is it to press the "stop all clips" button...
it might help...
after all ..what it does is:
STOP ALL CLIPS FROM PLAYING..AND LIGHTS UP THE BTA button..
so it might help... :wink:

I don't think this sort of bug would ever get to be released...it's too obvious..
but stranger things have happened
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