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Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:13 pm
by Tagor
next year!?
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:53 pm
by JBlongz
Until that epic moment that Live offers 64bit...Vienna Ensemble is an alternative you won't regret.
Look at all the plugins I run here with ~CPU <25%:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMPcFxyWzk
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:23 pm
by Rationalizer
Been asking this for two years now. Doesn't look very promising. :/
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:16 am
by pencilrocket
Use jbridge. Problem solved.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:47 am
by kryz
pencilrocket wrote:Use jbridge. Problem solved.
And if your on a mac, just keep waiting.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:29 am
by Chriszat
pencilrocket wrote:Use jbridge. Problem solved.
OMG. You just made my life slightly better.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:17 pm
by Fanu
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:21 pm
by muthafunka
Linear Phase wrote:Fanu wrote:I know this is bashing a dead horse
We are now, "bashing dead horses." What, was it not good enough, just to beat them?
I believe it's 'flogging', or was that the 32-bit version?
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:21 pm
by tintala
Ahh well, could not resist, coz I need 64bit as bad as anyone else. So humpity bumpity.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:00 pm
by TabSel
kryz wrote:pencilrocket wrote:Use jbridge. Problem solved.
And if your on a mac, just keep waiting.
There's jBridgeM for Mac, too...
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:07 pm
by JBlongz
Vienna Ensemble for your plugins people. While 64bit will fix some memory issues, you're cpu will still suffer. Here's a clip from my
article:
For those who don't know, Vienna Ensemble Pro is a plugin hosting software that works miracles when you want to run lots of CPU intensive plugins without slowing your DAW down. Your DAW is going to be your master sequencer for 95% of users. While its doing that, it should not be distracted with your plugin processing, except maybe for the master track and a some send FX. Vienna works as a light weight plugin in your daw pulling audio from your heavy weight plugins who's CPU processing is now independent. What does this mean?? Read on!
When plugins run side your DAW, they take part in its 'global' CPU limit set in the preferences. This means your plugins run at a fraction of their potential (your wasting all that good Dual/Quad CPU GHz you paid for). BUT if you run them in VE Pro, they burn rubber! TEST: Try running as little as 5 instances of Ominsphere with all 8 midi and audio channels playing different patches on separate tracks simultaneously. This will CRUNCH your DAW (i'm sure of it). Doing the same in VE Pro has NO affect on DAW. Sounds too good to be true? Almost..VE Pro costs €235.
This lets you run 32bit AND 64bit plugins outside your DAW while streaming the audio in! (freeing up Live's memory)
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:41 pm
by H20nly
i watched that video. nice.
i like that beat you got going too!
JBlongz wrote:This lets you run 32bit AND 64bit plugins outside your DAW while streaming the audio in! (freeing up Live's memory)
remember though, you are offering a practical solution that requires effort on the part of the end user. for the most part, they don't want that. they want to click the Run button or the Install button and have everything happen automagically. these are the same people who want it because "they" have it... who ever some other "they" might happen to be, Avid, Steinberg, etc, etc.
in fact, i'd go so far as to say that these are many of the same type of people who get busted at their day job for something lame like taking too many personal calls, and then immediately rat out some co-worker because "they" get to do it - as if management is going to be more understanding if the problem is wide spread.
good on you for trying though.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:16 pm
by Tone Deft
JBlongz wrote:Vienna Ensemble for your plugins people. While 64bit will fix some memory issues, you're cpu will still suffer. Here's a clip from my
article:
For those who don't know, Vienna Ensemble Pro is a plugin hosting software that works miracles when you want to run lots of CPU intensive plugins without slowing your DAW down. Your DAW is going to be your master sequencer for 95% of users. While its doing that, it should not be distracted with your plugin processing, except maybe for the master track and a some send FX. Vienna works as a light weight plugin in your daw pulling audio from your heavy weight plugins who's CPU processing is now independent. What does this mean?? Read on!
When plugins run side your DAW, they take part in its 'global' CPU limit set in the preferences. This means your plugins run at a fraction of their potential (your wasting all that good Dual/Quad CPU GHz you paid for). BUT if you run them in VE Pro, they burn rubber! TEST: Try running as little as 5 instances of Ominsphere with all 8 midi and audio channels playing different patches on separate tracks simultaneously. This will CRUNCH your DAW (i'm sure of it). Doing the same in VE Pro has NO affect on DAW. Sounds too good to be true? Almost..VE Pro costs €235.
This lets you run 32bit AND 64bit plugins outside your DAW while streaming the audio in! (freeing up Live's memory)
sweet.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:22 pm
by JBlongz
The best part about it is the total recall feature. Simply launch VE Pro before you load your Live session, it opens all the plugins the same way you left it. I've never turned back.
Re: Dear Ableton, 64 BIT SUPPORT . NOW . PLEASE!!! PLEASEEE! :*(
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:44 pm
by kryz
I didn't realize there were any options for mac users. Thanks for sharing.
So does the mac version of jbridge work? And for Live Suite owners it would still be much better to have a 64 bit Live.
Gonna check those two mac options out now. Too bad there's no 235€ on my account waiting to be spent on VE pro.