Is Ableton dead?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by xzusa8ky » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:21 am

No Live is not dead, its the german arrogance you feel now! :evil:
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by crumhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:24 am

It's pining for the fjords
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by digid » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:14 pm

sigabort wrote:i'm only really interested in 1 thing - 64-bit support. Other than that, I'm really happy with Live and it does everything I need. My real fear is that 9 comes out, I have to upgrade to get 64-bit support and then it takes 12 months to get rid of the bugs.

Ideal world for me is a last update to Live 8 which makes it 64-bit
The 8.4 beta is coming today (according to very reliable rekkerd.org), and it includes 64 bit support. Guess that will make you happy.

(although stuff like MaxForLive will NOT work with this beta - for now).
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by sigabort » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:28 pm

that would make me extremely happy... :)

i guessed we'd have to wait for Cycling to make MAX 64-bit before being able to use M4L... I know they've been working on it for a while tho so hopefully it won't be too far behind (I'm guessing this will come with an official support for MAX6 in M4L maybe)

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by digid » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:43 pm

sigabort wrote:that would make me extremely happy... :)

i guessed we'd have to wait for Cycling to make MAX 64-bit before being able to use M4L... I know they've been working on it for a while tho so hopefully it won't be too far behind (I'm guessing this will come with an official support for MAX6 in M4L maybe)

Well, be happy then. ;)

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by digid » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:45 pm

digid wrote:
sigabort wrote:that would make me extremely happy... :)

i guessed we'd have to wait for Cycling to make MAX 64-bit before being able to use M4L... I know they've been working on it for a while tho so hopefully it won't be too far behind (I'm guessing this will come with an official support for MAX6 in M4L maybe)

Well, be happy then. ;)

http://www.ableton.com/downloads/live-8-beta
Or maybe not THAT happy, depending on your plug-in situation:

"All 64-bit plug-ins can be used in the 64-bit version. 32-bit plug-ins cannot be used directly in the 64-bit version"

Strange stuff, this, because I am pretty sure software like Adobe Audition CS 6, which is 64 bit, can run 32 bit plug-ins just fine?
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by sigabort » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:13 pm

think most major plugin producers have been updating over the last 12 months or so. i guess there's going to be issues with maybe some more obscure stuff. there's always jbridge...

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by digid » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:25 pm

sigabort wrote:think most major plugin producers have been updating over the last 12 months or so. i guess there's going to be issues with maybe some more obscure stuff. there's always jbridge...
Not for Mac.
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by beatmunga » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:35 pm

crumhorn wrote:It's pining for the fjords
Chucklesome!
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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by sigabort » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:42 pm

digid wrote: Not for Mac.
that sux. i'd have thought with Logic having been 64-bit for quite some time now that it wouldn't be an issue at all

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by gomi » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:54 pm

sigabort wrote:
digid wrote: Not for Mac.
that sux. i'd have thought with Logic having been 64-bit for quite some time now that it wouldn't be an issue at all
Logic can magically load 32 bit plug ins if you are running it in 64 bit mode.

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by sigabort » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:01 pm

ah, ok, so now i see why the situation exists... i take it there's no jbridge equiv for Mac then?

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by pencilrocket » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:23 pm

digid wrote:
sigabort wrote:think most major plugin producers have been updating over the last 12 months or so. i guess there's going to be issues with maybe some more obscure stuff. there's always jbridge...
Not for Mac.
What is this?
http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridgem/

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by JuanSOLO » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:39 pm

dab wrote:They are the guys who gave you the goodies you are using now!
So Live's unreliability and struggles will be ported to bitwig? That IS fucking great news, and it makes since too seeing that bitwig is now the company making empty claims about releases.
Ableton hasn't made a false claim since "Share" I am assuming thats right about the time the bitwig guys decided to leave.

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Re: Is Ableton dead?

Post by c33 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:48 pm

Ableton is alive and well. And I predict Bitwig (if it's ever released) will not prove a viable threat / much competition to their market.

I think they missed the boat.
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