U-he appreciation

deva · Post by **deva** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Some other Bazille sounds I've made since the last time I posted audio demos... Bazille has steadily become my favorite synth. IMO, best filters ever in software. Bazille can sound beautifully organic, untamed and expressive.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/B37.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B38.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B39.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B40.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B41.mp3

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:29 pm

If you have Zebra and are considering whether to get ZebraHZ or Diva, I would say get Diva. ZebraHZ is worthwhile in its own right, but it is not Diva. Sure HZ has the Diva filters (minus the FilterFM) but Diva is much more than that. HZ does not give you Diva within Zebra.

Cheers, I know about this, just wasn't sure if the filters from Diva would be noticeable. Thanks for the input.

deva wrote:Some other Bazille sounds I've made since the last time I posted audio demos... Bazille has steadily become my favorite synth. IMO, best filters ever in software. Bazille can sound beautifully organic, untamed and expressive.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/B37.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B38.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B39.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B40.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B41.mp3

They do sound really organic, just what I want in general. Don't seem to have the lovely meaty silky low-end of Diva though. Watched a YouTube video last night of a guy tweaking away with Bazille. Some of the most unearthly yet organic sounds were dialed in, very pleasing to the ear.

...Great, yet another choice thrown into the mix

I want them all !

My bank is frowning at me.

EDIT: hang on....Bazille is only £69 atm...

how would you rate it against Zebra?

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:33 pm

Bazille's a completely different animal in my limited playing with the demo. Much more difficult for me to get my head wrapped around with the whole modular thing going on. Capable of some very cool and very different sounds, but wasn't enough for me to look to my wallet at least at this point.

But, upgraded and loving the new UI's!

deva · Post by **deva** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:48 pm

tedlogan wrote: They do sound really organic, just what I want in general. Don't seem to have the lovely meaty silky low-end of Diva though. Watched a YouTube video last night of a guy tweaking away with Bazille. Some of the most unearthly yet organic sounds were dialed in, very pleasing to the ear.

...Great, yet another choice thrown into the mix

I want them all !

My bank is frowning at me.

EDIT: hang on....Bazille is only £69 atm...

how would you rate it against Zebra?

Bazille does have incredible low-end... even when heavily modulated and in some ways even better than Diva... but it is not that particular analogue low-end like Diva has. Diva has that full round sound.

With Diva it is almost hard to make a bad sounding preset. Diva just sounds good effortlessly. Bazille is more work for sure... and it takes a while to know how to use the tools. At least for myself, when I first tried it I thought, what the hell is a lag generator, rectifier, quantizer etc. I suppose someone coming from an analogue modular background will feel at home though.

Bazille is a great price right now... and that price will be going up shortly after the official 1.0 version ships.

Compared to Zebra... Zebra is a great all around synth. Relatively low on CPU, good for all the standard sounds, easy to work with, and super diverse. Lots of people would rather have Zebra than Bazille. Zebra is more practical. I love Zebra.

That said, my favorite places are out on the edge... With all the ways you can feed signals back into themselves in Bazille, there is lots of unstable, barely controlled territory to explore... I have spent lots of time trying to make various sorts of nature sounds in Zebra and have had a small amount of success... but it's in Bazille that I have found more of that. It lends itself to natural organic sounds... and I don't just mean like an animal sound, but also like how some real but unknown instrument might sound.

In lots of synths, noise is kind of an afterthought... Bazille has all sorts of lovely noises, that integrate and modulate in unexpected ways. Bazille is not for the faint of heart... but if I could absolutely only pick one synth, it would be Bazille... glad I don't have to though... love my Elektron Analog Keys, Zebra and Diva!

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:12 am

deva wrote:
tedlogan wrote: They do sound really organic, just what I want in general. Don't seem to have the lovely meaty silky low-end of Diva though. Watched a YouTube video last night of a guy tweaking away with Bazille. Some of the most unearthly yet organic sounds were dialed in, very pleasing to the ear.

...Great, yet another choice thrown into the mix

I want them all !

My bank is frowning at me.

EDIT: hang on....Bazille is only £69 atm...

how would you rate it against Zebra?
Bazille does have incredible low-end... even when heavily modulated and in some ways even better than Diva... but it is not that particular analogue low-end like Diva has. Diva has that full round sound.

With Diva it is almost hard to make a bad sounding preset. Diva just sounds good effortlessly. Bazille is more work for sure... and it takes a while to know how to use the tools. At least for myself, when I first tried it I thought, what the hell is a lag generator, rectifier, quantizer etc. I suppose someone coming from an analogue modular background will feel at home though.

Bazille is a great price right now... and that price will be going up shortly after the official 1.0 version ships.

Compared to Zebra... Zebra is a great all around synth. Relatively low on CPU, good for all the standard sounds, easy to work with, and super diverse. Lots of people would rather have Zebra than Bazille. Zebra is more practical. I love Zebra.

That said, my favorite places are out on the edge... With all the ways you can feed signals back into themselves in Bazille, there is lots of unstable, barely controlled territory to explore... I have spent lots of time trying to make various sorts of nature sounds in Zebra and have had a small amount of success... but it's in Bazille that I have found more of that. It lends itself to natural organic sounds... and I don't just mean like an animal sound, but also like how some real but unknown instrument might sound.

In lots of synths, noise is kind of an afterthought... Bazille has all sorts of lovely noises, that integrate and modulate in unexpected ways. Bazille is not for the faint of heart... but if I could absolutely only pick one synth, it would be Bazille... glad I don't have to though... love my Elektron Analog Keys, Zebra and Diva!

Sounds good. I watched a few random Bazille tweaking videos, but I don't think trying to get a feel for it via YouTube is gonna work, just like a "feel" for Diva would not have worked (for me at least). I will have to acquire it at some point. It does seem very untamed and feral at points.

Still tweaking around with Diva's demo, experimenting with replacing some Zebra patches in my tracks with similar patches from Diva. Soloed, Diva sounds magnificent ! But in a busier mix, the difference is not so clear to me.

You're right about making Diva sound phenomenal effortlessly...it is just stunning in timbre.

Seeing as how much I love synthesis of all kinds of sounds, I'll end up buying all of u-he's synths eventually.

Zebra is more than enough for now I've realised. Thanks for your info!

deva · Post by **deva** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:40 pm

tedlogan wrote:Seeing as how much I love synthesis of all kinds of sounds, I'll end up buying all of u-he's synths eventually.

Zebra is more than enough for now I've realised. Thanks for your info!

If you love synthesis, then you will indeed end up buying them

But yeah, Zebra is a vast playground unto itself and it is enough... (until you want to explore stuff like feeding the filter output back into itself... hehe)

cheers

deva · Post by **deva** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:28 am

More Bazille

http://draigathar.org/sounds/B42.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B43.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B44.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B45.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B46.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B47.mp3

XSIMan · Post by **XSIMan** » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:02 am

All u-he plugs updated to version 2709
Bazille free beta extended
Bazille Gear Porn GUI redesigned. Looks very more classy

All u-he plugs now have GUI scaling in increments of 10%
Downloads here http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=419732

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:35 am

deva wrote:Bazille has steadily become my favorite synth. IMO, best filters ever in software. Bazille can sound beautifully organic, untamed and expressive.

If I didn't have Bazille already, I'd be very interested with the new NI Kontour which is an expressive PM based synth. I like the simple to use Motion Recorder for such type of synth.

deva wrote:http://draigathar.org/sounds/B40.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/B41.mp3

Listened to both at the same time, beautiful noise..made me feel like playing the Evil Within.

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:59 pm

Bazille is finally released! http://www.u-he.com/cms/bazille

Video: http://youtu.be/raxOQm03giA

special introductory price of $89 (+ VAT in the EU) has been extended until October 15. After that, the regular price is $129 (+ VAT in the EU).

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:18 pm

crystalmsc wrote:Bazille is finally released! http://www.u-he.com/cms/bazille

Video: http://youtu.be/raxOQm03giA

special introductory price of $89 (+ VAT in the EU) has been extended until October 15. After that, the regular price is $129 (+ VAT in the EU).

£69 is peanuts for this thing. I quite like the overall tone/music in the video from 0:50.

I will introduce Bazille (Bacteria

) to Zebra within 15 days

PS deva - some of your tones sound really good (not that any sound crap or anything) - a nice earthy quality. Not too crisp, not too dull, just about right. Are those pure Bazille patches or are they processed further ?

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:50 pm

Just playing around with the latest updated demo with the huge factory preset bank. This thing sounds fantastic. I'm in love I think. Unless my ears are fooling me, which is entirely possible, the overall tonal character is like the world between Diva and Zebra - not quite the warm fuzz of Diva, and not the crispyness of Zebra - a very solid tone inbetween those two, though I think it sounds better than Zebra. Or rather I prefer its sound. It is much more recent coding after all, Zebra's is from what? 2007?

Running it through Satin for added warmth, just bloody lovely.

EDIT: unless there's a better way to add modwheel functionality to Push, I highly recommend downloading any of the M4L MIDI effect devices for modwheel control, which is very important for Bazille.

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:54 pm

Just bought Bazille. For only £70 it's a steal. What sealed the deal for me is the incredibly cool sequencer combined with "rotate"...holy fuck.

You can configure some of the output jacks and control it via Push...makes the cables jump to all possible targets via Push's encoder, resulting in incredible variations in sound extremely quickly...this thing is wild and possibly the best thing ever made.

XSIMan · Post by **XSIMan** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:58 pm

u-he Bazille and The Drop finished in the same week it's a good week

Those bazille presets made me realise there's far more types of sound from Bazille. I've been using it for bass arps but it can do everything.

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:10 am

tedlogan wrote:£69 is peanuts for this thing. I quite like the overall tone/music in the video from 0:50.

I will introduce Bazille (Bacteria ) to Zebra within 15 days

I really like the two demo songs, both have some sort of Gamelan wavesequence vibe to it.

both will infect the ableton's rack so hard.

tedlogan wrote:What sealed the deal for me is the incredibly cool sequencer combined with "rotate"...holy fuck.

...this thing is wild and possibly the best thing ever made.

It made me happy even without any SERUM

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