Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
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Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
Hey
On my last project, I'm simply trying to trust my ears 100%.
Playing with Low cut (HPF) on some kick, I can almost go up to 60hz and barely ear a difference.
Granted, I use 5inch monitors, so there's not a lot of bass, but I usually can feel it right (and it translates correctly).
I also use BeyerDynamics 990, and those one are really precise, even for the bass... but still, Low cut kick up to 50 or even 60 hz and I don't really notice a difference.
I hear a little bit, but if I trust my ears 100%, I'll leave it at 50hz
I just wonder what's your experience on this? I want to remove as much useless energy as possible to get my track louder at the end of the mix. Would it sound less bottom heavy on a massive PA ? what do you usually do for electro tracks?
cheers
On my last project, I'm simply trying to trust my ears 100%.
Playing with Low cut (HPF) on some kick, I can almost go up to 60hz and barely ear a difference.
Granted, I use 5inch monitors, so there's not a lot of bass, but I usually can feel it right (and it translates correctly).
I also use BeyerDynamics 990, and those one are really precise, even for the bass... but still, Low cut kick up to 50 or even 60 hz and I don't really notice a difference.
I hear a little bit, but if I trust my ears 100%, I'll leave it at 50hz
I just wonder what's your experience on this? I want to remove as much useless energy as possible to get my track louder at the end of the mix. Would it sound less bottom heavy on a massive PA ? what do you usually do for electro tracks?
cheers
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
Also I blind test a/b and I alway prefer when there is low cut .
Do you guys hpf you kick as well?
Do you guys hpf you kick as well?
Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
I'm more interested in your dog!
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
Well, dogs have an extended frequency range hearing, dont they? So maybe the 20hz in low kick drums are for their entertainment.102455 wrote:I'm more interested in your dog!
I'm seeking your experiences.
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
I usually find the fundamental frequency, boost that a bit, and then hp filter up as close to the fundamental as possible without affecting the tone & weight too much . I have no idea if this is a good idea, don't take my word for it
Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
you don't get the full picture on headphones...The Carpet Cleaner wrote:Hey
On my last project, I'm simply trying to trust my ears 100%.
Playing with Low cut (HPF) on some kick, I can almost go up to 60hz and barely ear a difference.
Granted, I use 5inch monitors, so there's not a lot of bass, but I usually can feel it right (and it translates correctly).
I also use BeyerDynamics 990, and those one are really precise, even for the bass... but still, Low cut kick up to 50 or even 60 hz and I don't really notice a difference.
I hear a little bit, but if I trust my ears 100%, I'll leave it at 50hz
I just wonder what's your experience on this? I want to remove as much useless energy as possible to get my track louder at the end of the mix. Would it sound less bottom heavy on a massive PA ? what do you usually do for electro tracks?
cheers
(you might get a glimpse of the low end if you listen at really low volume)
try and get to a system with decent subs...one that shake you balls
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
I suppose a big sub to shake my balls would be great...
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seriously now...The Carpet Cleaner wrote:I suppose a big sub to shake my balls would be great...
the difference in picture between a "full-range" 2.1-way system (including a sub-bass)
and any other 2 way system is astounding.. (specifically in the low end)
it correlates with the low-end you usually see on the spectrum analyzer but can't quite hear without the shaking of the balls..
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
Yea I know, it makes me think about other thread going on on the forum right now.3dot... wrote:seriously now...The Carpet Cleaner wrote:I suppose a big sub to shake my balls would be great...
the difference in picture between a "full-range" 2.1-way system (including a sub-bass)
and any other 2 way system is astounding.. (specifically in the low end)
it correlates with the low-end you usually see on the spectrum analyzer but can't quite hear without the shaking of the balls..
Like, on headphones, mobiles, and most of speakers, you'll probably not ear the 20hz... but then on PA or with cars with big subs...
But still, I wonder what people with subs do. Do you cut at 20hz, or don't hpf you kick at tall ? is the 20 hz only dirt and useless ? cause, in my cans and monitors, it mostly is. I need to go to a bigger studio to check this out.
Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
get out the grot boxes! play it in your car, on the iPod, on your mom's system, over the city's emergency PA, play it everywhere you can, and listen.
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
HPF-ing your low end to much you will loose the weight of your track without noticing by ear and you will scream afterwards that your track is sounding thin or live is fcuking with your sound.
Best bet here is to adjust low end by volume or A/B it with a track that you like in the low end an dtry to match using spctrum.
HPF all the tracks that don't need low end but not the kick and bass and be shure that under 100Hz you have some dinamics, usually bad low end is due to lack of dynamics.
Just my 2Cent.
Cheers!
Best bet here is to adjust low end by volume or A/B it with a track that you like in the low end an dtry to match using spctrum.
HPF all the tracks that don't need low end but not the kick and bass and be shure that under 100Hz you have some dinamics, usually bad low end is due to lack of dynamics.
Just my 2Cent.
Cheers!
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
i always hipass my kicks and basslines, varying from 30 to 70, usually nothing under 50, since all the energy my tracks needs start at around 60.
In fact I hipass almost every sound, so that nothin interferes with the lowend of the bass and kick.
I never had lack of bass when playing my liveacts.
In fact I hipass almost every sound, so that nothin interferes with the lowend of the bass and kick.
I never had lack of bass when playing my liveacts.
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
have you ever walked out onto the floor during your set and listened?störgeräusche wrote:I never had lack of bass when playing my liveacts.
just some good advice I've read on here.
coming from a non-DJ.
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
depends how steep the hpfilter (db/octave)störgeräusche wrote:i always hipass my kicks and basslines, varying from 30 to 70, usually nothing under 50, since all the energy my tracks needs start at around 60.
In fact I hipass almost every sound, so that nothin interferes with the lowend of the bass and kick.
I never had lack of bass when playing my liveacts.
one thing for certain...it will diminish lows...that's just what it does
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Re: Low Cut Kick Drum for my dog?
yes I did walk on the dancefloor when my music was playing, during soundcheck (always) and during the performance (sometimes), so I know how my stuff sounds in a club.
hipass filter is very steep, 36 dB/octave (sonnox oxford native EQ).
hipass filter is very steep, 36 dB/octave (sonnox oxford native EQ).
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