The death of the DJ

[H20nly]

come on Tone, which one's you?

09/10 @ 06:08 : Sale, GB
09/10 @ 06:02 : Portland, Oregon, US
09/10 @ 05:42 : Bucharest, RO
09/10 @ 05:39 : El Monte, California, US
09/10 @ 05:14 : Mountain View, California, US
09/10 @ 05:06 : Lausanne, CH
09/10 @ 04:37 : Brockton, Massachusetts, US
09/10 @ 04:22 : Avon, Indiana, US
09/10 @ 04:15 : Carlow, IE
09/10 @ 04:15 : Richmond Hill, CA
09/10 @ 04:08 : Tacoma, Washington, US

it's not listed there. Tone Deft was this one:

09/10 @ 04:20 : Casa De Los Marijuanos, Tejas, Estados Unidos

[Tone Deft]

come on Tone, which one's you?

09/10 @ 06:08 : Sale, GB
09/10 @ 06:02 : Portland, Oregon, US
09/10 @ 05:42 : Bucharest, RO
09/10 @ 05:39 : El Monte, California, US
09/10 @ 05:14 : Mountain View, California, US
09/10 @ 05:06 : Lausanne, CH
09/10 @ 04:37 : Brockton, Massachusetts, US
09/10 @ 04:22 : Avon, Indiana, US
09/10 @ 04:15 : Carlow, IE
09/10 @ 04:15 : Richmond Hill, CA
09/10 @ 04:08 : Tacoma, Washington, US

which one of these are you?



http://www.beilroderkarnevalsclub.de/Ne ... unken.html

[H20nly]

if he's either of the two on the lower right... then he's pretty hawt.

[Tone Deft]

it's 2012, we have great tools that can make DJ-ing really easy. many people stop there. others push the envelope, have HUGE natural abilities and put in a tremendous amount of effort. both crowds will say that they're the bomb.

unfortunately for every really talented DJ out there there's a thousand posers that talk a lot.

in my experience, the ones that really know their shit have had been around this bullshit enough to gloss over it and are confident enough to not engage the fuckwits in this type of conversation. if you got it you don't care who knows. if you're a fuckwit attention whore, get some CDJs or Live or whatever and learn to pump your fist, overtwist knobs, pop your Ed Hardy collar and be sure to tell everyone that will listen to you that you're a DJ. warp all your tracks, set quantize to 4 measures, don't go into the red too often and dream of those $1,000 a night gigs with hooker and blow after parties.

[Da hand]

mixing used to be part of it

it isn't any more

Actually I think mixing is a bigger part if it than ever before. Mixing never simply meant beatmatching. It is also about the way you make your transitions, the way you build up to your drops, the way you juggle things playing together, etc.

Now DJing on the other hand is not just about mixing skills. It is also equally about the songs you have in your arsenal and how you read your dance floor as to which tracks to drop next. I play with everything: vinyl, cds, laptops, etc (all in one set if needed) and can keep things very tight, but I don't care if the DJ next to me is only using a laptop. If they can rock the dance floor and blow my mind with the way the music flows, then that is all I care about. I am dancing.

Digital tools make starting to DJ easier than before and so there are many DJs who aren't that good - they can't hold a dance floor or make an interesting musical statement - but good DJs will just blow them away no matter what they are using, so I don't see any point in getting too worried about all this. To me it is just the same as when making music became more accessible. There was suddenly more bad stuff in the stores to go through, yes, but that is just part of the deal. Eventually you find the good stuff

[Da hand]

it's 2012, we have great tools that can make DJ-ing really easy. many people stop there. others push the envelope, have HUGE natural abilities and put in a tremendous amount of effort. both crowds will say that they're the bomb.

unfortunately for every really talented DJ out there there's a thousand posers that talk a lot.

in my experience, the ones that really know their shit have had been around this bullshit enough to gloss over it and are confident enough to not engage the fuckwits in this type of conversation. if you got it you don't care who knows. if you're a fuckwit attention whore, get some CDJs or Live or whatever and learn to pump your fist, overtwist knobs, pop your Ed Hardy collar and be sure to tell everyone that will listen to you that you're a DJ. warp all your tracks, set quantize to 4 measures, don't go into the red too often and dream of those $1,000 a night gigs with hooker and blow after parties.

Ahaha! Well said Tone Deft.

[starving student]

it's 2012, we have great tools that can make DJ-ing really easy. many people stop there. others push the envelope, have HUGE natural abilities and put in a tremendous amount of effort. both crowds will say that they're the bomb.

unfortunately for every really talented DJ out there there's a thousand posers that talk a lot.

in my experience, the ones that really know their shit have had been around this bullshit enough to gloss over it and are confident enough to not engage the fuckwits in this type of conversation. if you got it you don't care who knows. if you're a fuckwit attention whore, get some CDJs or Live or whatever and learn to pump your fist, overtwist knobs, pop your Ed Hardy collar and be sure to tell everyone that will listen to you that you're a DJ. warp all your tracks, set quantize to 4 measures, don't go into the red too often and dream of those $1,000 a night gigs with hooker and blow after parties.

not z-trip apparently, he's quite peeved at all of this.
I look at it like this, any artist no matter what kind naturally doesn't want his or her art misrepresented, it's only natural.

[Tone Deft]

not z-trip apparently

what are you talking about?

[starving student]

http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/534 ... the_danger

[Tone Deft]

it's 2012, we have great tools that can make DJ-ing really easy. many people stop there. others push the envelope, have HUGE natural abilities and put in a tremendous amount of effort. both crowds will say that they're the bomb.

unfortunately for every really talented DJ out there there's a thousand posers that talk a lot.

in my experience, the ones that really know their shit have had been around this bullshit enough to gloss over it and are confident enough to not engage the fuckwits in this type of conversation. if you got it you don't care who knows. if you're a fuckwit attention whore, get some CDJs or Live or whatever and learn to pump your fist, overtwist knobs, pop your Ed Hardy collar and be sure to tell everyone that will listen to you that you're a DJ. warp all your tracks, set quantize to 4 measures, don't go into the red too often and dream of those $1,000 a night gigs with hooker and blow after parties.

not z-trip apparently, he's quite peeved at all of this.
I look at it like this, any artist no matter what kind naturally doesn't want his or her art misrepresented, it's only natural.

"other people go up and hit play, bring people on stage and throw out beach balls. I don’t knock that hustle, but I can’t really back it."

oh, he's so peeved!

and it's an article from a year ago. he and I are pretty much saying the same thing, it's not the technology's fault, it's the users. some barely use the tools, some take it to a high degree.

did you actually read the article?

[starving student]

yeah I read it, I agree with that way of saying it as well but it's just another way of saying the same thing. whenever we talk about computer djs and all that here I just assumed we're never talking about those people who really play the computer at least I don't, I just assumed we're talking about djs who don't even care about skills when we talk about fake djs.

[Tone Deft]

no worries, the are real DJs and very talented people on this forum, they're just quiet because well, it's just the goddamn Ableton forum.

it's a good article, I like his chill approach to it all, been there, seen that over and over, so it goes. that guy's done some insanely creative mixes.

[starving student]

yeah it's amazing how consistent he is too,

[H20nly]

oh yeah, well in that case i'd love to edit your html... you know, cascade in your style sheets!