mixing tip#1

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mixing tip#1

Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:36 pm

for starters.. cut anything under 60Hz across the board...
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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by ian_halsall » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:45 pm

Is that cos it can't be heard?

Same goes for 15k+???

JS Bach could hear frequencies at this level.

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by Tysonviolin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:55 pm

Is this a joke? :|

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by sporkles » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:06 pm

Thanks! I look forward to tip #2 in this series!

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by ian_halsall » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:07 pm

The Bach thing is a joke - Bark/Dog - dogs can hear up to 20k apparently.

That's why dogs never dance to human music - it doesn't get them high enough.

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by ian_halsall » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:11 pm

Damn - another howler

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:43 pm

mixing tip#2
now pan your tracks... and cut some more selectively...
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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by ian_halsall » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:51 pm

not as good as your first tip but still quite clever

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 pm

we will get back to the sub-bass frequencies at tip#666...stay tuned...
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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by JuanSOLO » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:29 am

3dot... wrote:we will get back to the sub-bass frequencies at tip#666...stay tuned...
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I dont know if I can stay tuned that long, but I would like to see how you plan to "get back" the sub-bass from tip#1
keep it comin

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by marcoskohler » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:07 am

once he has everything above 60 tamed and mixed, he will simply remove the 60HZ cut and work on the lower end :>

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by sporkles » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:39 am

^ Helloo-oo? Spoiler alert, much?

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by nigel1 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:00 am

3dot... wrote:for starters.. cut anything under 60Hz across the board...
Correction is definitely in order here before people beginning mixing with this slightly incorrect tip.

You can cut most of anything which has no major position in your mix's low energy. Examples are High hats, string sections without contrabass, or low cellos, midrange synth parts and etc.
A nice cut from 80 to 100hz will clear up that area for you and keep it nice and free allowing you more headroom in the lower energy area. This tip is flawed in a way because if you make house music for example
there is some energy in some sub bass, kicks and regular basses, some synth parts that have "depth" at around 40hz - 60hz and are pretty much only evident on big club speakers. This energy is what makes everyone go.."oh sh*t what is that record!!!" Now you definitely have to control that low energy area...but for kicks, sub bass and regular basses. I would say do the cut with a High Pass filter with -12db from 30hz down. Choose whats more important in your mix/song. If it's the kick then do the cut as previously stated at 30hz and choose to cut your bass at higher frequency...lets say 40 - 50hz. If your bassline is more important than flip the theory. The main thing is to think of your mix as a jigsaw puzzle and make space within your frequency spectrum for the elements to breathe. Another quick tip: you always hear everyone griping about digi-titus. lol! Of every record coming out now and the high end is sizzling and not in a good way. It's extremely irritating at high db's in a club and half the reason everyone is losing their hearing in the club setting. You can get rid of that by using a shelf on your high hats at around 12.5k and -2 to -5db. This actually allows you to bring the high hats higher in the mix believe it or not and it won't sound irritating at all.

again YMMV and hey what do I know....I'm just another guy with an opinion right? lol

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by h3rtz » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:18 am

ian_halsall wrote:Is that cos it can't be heard?
K
Same goes for 15k+???

JS Bach could hear frequencies at this level.
The operating noise of old tube TVs is around 20khz. I can hear that and I know a lot of others who can.

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Re: mixing tip#1

Post by bkwsk » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:32 pm

h3rtz wrote:
ian_halsall wrote:Is that cos it can't be heard?
K
Same goes for 15k+???

JS Bach could hear frequencies at this level.
The operating noise of old tube TVs is around 20khz. I can hear that and I know a lot of others who can.
I can too.

Mixing tip #1 for me: don't cut everything below 60Hz. :lol:

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