Completely understand that session recording is not PDC, I actually think these issues are comparable in terms of difficulty, but we have to accept at least that automation PDC and session automation are linked to each other, session automation is using the automation system of Ableton Live, and it's the automation system that doesn't compensate, as a developer myself, if I knew I had to rewrite an automation system, I would've started with that effort rather than patching the existing system... I doubt they have these systems isolated, work on compensation directly relates to the automation lanes, and I've always understood that to be the reason why it wasn't easy to fix... the automation tracks are linked to the transport track.. and live seems to use multiple transports, one with compensated audio+midi playing along, and the other playing time, triggering clips and automation seems to run on this track, when it should be on the linear track, and that's where the headfuck comes in because how to make that work with session view?.. anyway, the main point is that the development of these things are not in isolation they're deeply linked, so that's why there was talk of a rewrite... and ultimately I think the really damning about this whole issue is that Live 9 was not a rewrite, and was just patched up... nobody is arguing that they're not working on it, I think the major source of frustration is that it's not in this update.hoffman2k wrote: Its funny to hear some people say that Ableton should have figured out PDC before they added automation recording.
Session recording is easy stuff compared to PDC. Its a way larger issue than just automation.
I think that's what it comes down to really, I can accept that it takes time to develop things and that you can't have everything you want, but there are limits to how long you should wait for things.... if Live 9 had correct PDC and session view automation, I would've been happy for a while, then after a while I may expect more improvements... my point is that we expect certain things in certain time frames, but it is a perpetual inevitable process.