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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:11 pm 

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Even still, I think you should do the sums and double check what Live 8 Suite (boxed) now + Push later would cost vs Abletons Live 8 Suite (download) + Push preorder. At a guess, Id think it would come in at about 900 euros or so but I havent taken a look.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:50 pm 

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Sorry if this seems like a stupid question

If I want the actual box with like actual CDs in - can I order that from the web shop? Does that affect pricing? If I buy the CDs from my local music store in Cape Town, does the upgrade path price on the web apply to me?

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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:00 pm 

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Anyone get the latest newsletter email for owners of Suite 8 & M4L?
Im still confused as ever!

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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:03 pm 

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mCKENIC wrote:
Anyone get the latest newsletter email for owners of Suite 8 & M4L?
Im still confused as ever!


Really? Why? All you have to do is login to Ableton's site, go to "Shop" and there are links to see what your specific pricing options are based on what licenses you own.

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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:17 pm 

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What's weird to me is that they're all like "SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY $100 DISCOUNT on LIVE 9 and $150 DISCOUNT ON LIVE 9 AND PUSH!" and I've been eyeballing the upgrade page since announcement time, and Live 9 + Push is still $748. Live 9 is $199, but that's only down from $250 or so that it used to be.

What's the deal, man?

EDIT: and yes, I'm signed in to my account.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:37 pm 

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Punky921 wrote:
What's weird to me is that they're all like "SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY $100 DISCOUNT on LIVE 9 and $150 DISCOUNT ON LIVE 9 AND PUSH!" and I've been eyeballing the upgrade page since announcement time, and Live 9 + Push is still $748. Live 9 is $199, but that's only down from $250 or so that it used to be.

What's the deal, man?

EDIT: and yes, I'm signed in to my account.


I think they are basing that on saying that the normal upgrade price for suite8+m4l is 300$, so you save 100$ on that down to 200$. Then you save another 50$ on push, which is 600$ so down to 550$. So that puts you at 750$ for the pair

Im not sure if they changed their original price for upgrade from 250 to 300, but if you look at the page it has 300$ crossed out. Maybe its just me but 300$ for someone who already owns m4l as an upgrade price seems like a huge slap in the face


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:58 pm 

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So I just bought a used copy of Live 8 Suite (boxed) on eBay last month for $256 and my upgrade path to Live 9 Suite costs $249. Ableton Live 8 Suite is selling for $524 with free upgrade to Live 9 Suite.

So that means:
Live 8 Suite (used) $256 + Live 9 Suite upgrade (release special) $249 = $505

Live 8 Suite (new) $524 + FREE upgrade to Live 9 Suite = $524

$524
-505
$19 savings

So buying a used copy of Live 8 Suite offers little to no savings, unless you can find it for like $100? I must say that in comparison to recent Propellerhead upgrade paths, this upgrade pricing is HUGELY disappointing, unless I'm missing something here. Would I have been better off waiting for Live 9 Suite to come out and using a coupon at a retailer to get a better price?


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:31 pm 

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My only complaint remains the same, no other DAW I own is as expensive to upgrade as Live Suite is.
This is the inherent problem with relying on third party manufacturers for add ons. AAS, Cycling 74, Cytomic, whoever makes Amp, all those people will want a cut at some point when they recode for OS changes etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:37 pm 

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sampla wrote:
So I just bought a used copy of Live 8 Suite (boxed) on eBay last month for $256 and my upgrade path to Live 9 Suite costs $249. Ableton Live 8 Suite is selling for $524 with free upgrade to Live 9 Suite.

So that means:
Live 8 Suite (used) $256 + Live 9 Suite upgrade (release special) $249 = $505

Live 8 Suite (new) $524 + FREE upgrade to Live 9 Suite = $524

$524
-505
$19 savings

So buying a used copy of Live 8 Suite offers little to no savings, unless you can find it for like $100? I must say that in comparison to recent Propellerhead upgrade paths, this upgrade pricing is HUGELY disappointing, unless I'm missing something here. Would I have been better off waiting for Live 9 Suite to come out and using a coupon at a retailer to get a better price?


Are you blaming Ableton for you getting a bad deal on a 2nd hand purchase?


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:44 pm 

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Gotta blame someone


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:00 pm 

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My confusion is in the fact that on my upgrade page €249 is crossed out and €169 is my current price.

The email said there was a €100 discount as I already have Live 8 Suite and M4L. If its €69 I will upgrade indeed.

If it is €169 ($225) I dont see enough value in it for me ATM so I wont bother...

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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:31 pm 

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Szuumm wrote:
Are you blaming Ableton for you getting a bad deal on a 2nd hand purchase?
No. And relatively speaking, $249 is not a bad deal for Ableton Live 8 Suite. What isn't a good deal is upgrade pricing. If I'd purchased Ableton Live 8 Suite for full price, near its release, I'd be really steamed at the upgrade pricing. As it is, I am disappointed that the deal I hoped I would get, is not really any deal at all. Notice, I'm not flaming all over the discussion board over the pricing, but simply trying to understand if I'm reading the upgrade path pricing correctly. If I am reading everything correctly, then I've saved next to nothing in buying secondhand. Hopefully, others who might have the same idea will be aware that there is no real deal in buying secondhand, unless you are getting Live 8 Suite at well under $250. I was under the impression that Ableton Live 8 Suite users were getting a free upgrade to Live Suite 9, similar to the Propellerhead offer. In my defense, the upgrade path and pricing has been extremely confusing to many, if not most, Ableton users over the past few months. I guess I rolled the dice and came up short.

And for what it's worth, I was able to buy a secondhand copy of Reason 4 for dirt cheap on eBay and offered "pay what you want" pricing to upgrade to Reason 6.0. I paid the going rate for the upgrade ($169 I believe, upgradable from ANY previous versions of Reason, which is VERY reasonable), by the way, because Reason is fantastic!

And my question still wasn't answered... Would I have been better off waiting for Live 9 Suite to come out and using a coupon at a retailer to get a better price?


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:41 pm 

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Machinesworking wrote:
My only complaint remains the same, no other DAW I own is as expensive to upgrade as Live Suite is.
This is the inherent problem with relying on third party manufacturers for add ons. AAS, Cycling 74, Cytomic, whoever makes Amp, all those people will want a cut at some point when they recode for OS changes etc.


They need the extra money to hire a better web developer.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:43 pm 

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Quote:
On March 5th we will be releasing Ableton Live 9 with many new features, innovations, and improvements. To show our appreciation to you as a user of Suite 8 and Max for Live, we are offering a special upgrade discount. Save USD 100 / EUR 80 off the regular price when you upgrade to Live 9 Suite within one week of its release - until Tuesday, March 12th, 2013.


Price is $199 USD for me and that's with $100 off. :roll:

Wow NO NO NO and NO!

This "upgrade" is the same price as the full version of Logic. Live 8 still works pretty well, and I already own M4L and The Glue. Seems as if the improvements here are incremental at best, not really worth two C notes and I say this having been a very vocal supporter of Live for a long time (I bought version 1.0 way back 2001). $99 USD yes. $199, uh no.

Just wait for a sale to come around during the holidays.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 9 Pricing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:05 pm 

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Breaks Dude wrote:
Just wait for a sale to come around during the holidays.


Im afraid that is what I will have to do too (already have the Glue also)!

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