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 Post subject: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:27 pm 

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This instrument is very intriguing to me, you can play the scale from C1 to C4 just using 5 columns on the left.

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Use these patterns to play any chord you wish, as long as you have the pattern correct, you'll play the chord any where in any key. As you can see, the C major chord and D Major chord have the same pattern.

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Playing Major chords in every key within 3 octaves looks like this, you'd never do this in a song, but it shows how powerful this concept is.

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Iv'e invested more money than I'd like to admit into my Euro modular , Ableton, please tell me I can use Push through midi and use my cherished modular!

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:49 pm 

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push-o-lar

:D

my guess is that you can "play" a midi track which is then routed wherever you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:05 pm 

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It's even easier when you play "In Key" - if you look on the Push page on our site, check out the "One shape per chord" picture. You only need to know one shape for every minor and major triad in all 12 keys.

(And yes, I run a bunch of hardware synths with Push, using External instrument devices and M4L to control the synths, from Push...you can even do MIDI to CV with M4L if you have the right audio interface (Motu or RME FF400).
Jesse

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:26 pm 

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that looks so badass...doubles as a Tartus control panel i suspect


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:58 pm 

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Jesse wrote:
I run a bunch of hardware synths with Push.
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I'm SOLD, when can I buy!

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:31 pm 

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*bookmarked*

For awesomeness.

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:22 pm 

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Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:39 pm 

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Mage2k wrote:
Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).


it is new in a daw controller for sure, and it's the first mayor daw that offers it.


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:25 pm 

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Mage2k wrote:
Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).


Yah. but an accordion doesn't have key pressure that can be applied to the cutoff of a Moog filter!

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:30 pm 

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So what you're saying is... Not only is this the most badass controller to software implementation to date, but it also trains you on playing the accordion?? I just keep getting more pumped about this!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:37 pm 

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:lol:

cool post.

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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:12 am 

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For fluid playing you'll also want to memorize and get comfortable with the alternate chord shapes. You'll hit the edges as you move around (if you set up your preferred iPad app or launchpad with the same 8x8 pitch layout and start practicing you will run into this). Of course it may also just be an easier fingering regardless of the edges depending on what you're playing.

For example simple uninverted major chords:

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.....5..
...1...3

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..3..5..
...1....

..5.....
....3...
.....1..



It's easy to work this out for any chord, just 5 to the left and up a row to get the same note.

This all assumes the chromatic layout of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:16 am 

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I'm just sad that I've put so much practice into the frustrating 4 note chromatic layout via Lauchpad/Maschine, only to find that there will now be this... Which can be interpreted as 3 note. But on top of that have scale modes. !! Oh well haha


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:00 am 

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I'm hoping someone can make a Max patch so that it can do something similar to SoundPrism Pro.


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 Post subject: Re: Push Chord Patterns
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:11 pm 

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If you own a Novation Launchpad you can use Midi Katapult to set it up as an Isomorphic keyboard. I'd like to share the Isomorphic keyboard template I use with Katapult. There are three pages, Chromatic, Diatonic, and Chords. Chords is a group of mid cc's I use to trigger midi clips containing chords I copied from Soundprism Pro. Download Katapult ( http://www.midikatapult.com/ ), follow the setup instructions in the documentation, then replace the text in the layout.txt file with the text below.

page 1 Chromatic
channel 15
oncolor red
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 0 83 100
offcolor green
rawnote 1 0 84 100
offcolor black
rawnote 2 0 85 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 0 86 100
offcolor black
rawnote 4 0 87 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 0 88 100
rawnote 6 0 89 100
offcolor black
rawnote 7 0 90 100
offcolor black
rawnote 0 1 78 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 1 79 100
offcolor black
rawnote 2 1 80 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 3 1 81 100
offcolor black
rawnote 4 1 82 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 1 83 100
offcolor green
rawnote 6 1 84 100
offcolor black
rawnote 7 1 85 100
offcolor black
rawnote 0 2 73 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 2 74 100
offcolor black
rawnote 2 2 75 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 2 76 100
rawnote 4 2 77 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 2 78 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 2 79 100
offcolor black
rawnote 7 2 80 100
offcolor black
rawnote 0 3 68 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 1 3 69 100
offcolor black
rawnote 2 3 70 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 3 71 100
offcolor green
rawnote 4 3 72 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 3 73 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 3 74 100
offcolor black
rawnote 7 3 75 100
offcolor black
rawnote 0 4 63 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 4 64 100
rawnote 2 4 65 100
offcolor black
rawnote 3 4 66 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 4 67 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 4 68 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 6 4 69 100
offcolor black
rawnote 7 4 70 100
offcolor black
rawnote 0 5 58 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 5 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 2 5 60 100
offcolor black
rawnote 3 5 61 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 5 62 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 5 63 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 5 64 100
rawnote 7 5 65 100
rawnote 0 6 53 100
offcolor black
rawnote 1 6 54 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 6 55 100
offcolor black
rawnote 3 6 56 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 4 6 57 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 6 58 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 6 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 7 6 60 100
offcolor green
rawnote 0 7 48 100
offcolor black
rawnote 1 7 49 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 7 50 100
offcolor black
rawnote 3 7 51 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 7 52 100
rawnote 5 7 53 100
offcolor black
rawnote 6 7 54 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 7 55 100
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11

page 2 Diatonic
channel 15
offcolor green
rawnote 0 0 72 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 0 74 100
rawnote 2 0 76 100
rawnote 3 0 77 100
rawnote 4 0 79 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 5 0 81 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 0 83 100
offcolor green
rawnote 7 0 84 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 1 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 1 1 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 1 71 100
offcolor green
rawnote 3 1 72 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 1 74 100
rawnote 5 1 76 100
rawnote 6 1 77 100
rawnote 7 1 79 100
rawnote 0 2 62 100
rawnote 1 2 64 100
rawnote 2 2 65 100
rawnote 3 2 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 4 2 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 2 71 100
offcolor green
rawnote 6 2 72 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 2 74 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 0 3 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 3 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 2 3 60 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 3 62 100
rawnote 4 3 64 100
rawnote 5 3 65 100
rawnote 6 3 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 7 3 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 4 52 100
rawnote 1 4 53 100
rawnote 2 4 55 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 3 4 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 4 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 5 4 60 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 4 62 100
rawnote 7 4 64 100
rawnote 0 5 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 1 5 48 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 5 50 100
rawnote 3 5 52 100
rawnote 4 5 53 100
rawnote 5 5 55 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 6 5 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 5 59 100
rawnote 0 6 41 100
rawnote 1 6 43 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 2 6 45 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 6 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 4 6 48 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 6 50 100
rawnote 6 6 52 100
rawnote 7 6 53 100
offcolor green
rawnote 0 7 36 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 7 38 100
rawnote 2 7 40 100
rawnote 3 7 41 100
rawnote 4 7 43 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 5 7 45 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 7 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 7 7 48 100
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11

page 3 Chords
channel 16
offcolor yellow
rawnote 0 0 64 127
rawnote 1 0 65 127
rawnote 2 0 66 127
rawnote 3 0 67 127
rawnote 4 0 68 127
rawnote 5 0 69 127
rawnote 6 0 70 127
rawnote 7 0 71 127
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 1 72 127
rawnote 1 1 73 127
rawnote 2 1 74 127
rawnote 3 1 75 127
rawnote 4 1 76 127
rawnote 5 1 77 127
rawnote 6 1 78 127
rawnote 7 1 79 127
offcolor green
rawnote 0 2 80 127
rawnote 1 2 81 127
rawnote 2 2 82 127
rawnote 3 2 83 127
rawnote 4 2 84 127
rawnote 5 2 85 127
rawnote 6 2 86 127
rawnote 7 2 87 127
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 3 88 127
rawnote 1 3 89 127
rawnote 2 3 90 127
rawnote 3 3 91 127
rawnote 4 3 92 127
rawnote 5 3 93 127
rawnote 6 3 94 127
rawnote 7 3 95 127
offcolor green
rawnote 0 4 96 127
rawnote 1 4 97 127
rawnote 2 4 98 127
rawnote 3 4 99 127
rawnote 4 4 100 127
rawnote 5 4 101 127
rawnote 6 4 102 127
rawnote 7 4 103 127
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 5 104 127
rawnote 1 5 105 127
rawnote 2 5 106 127
rawnote 3 5 107 127
rawnote 4 5 108 127
rawnote 5 5 109 127
rawnote 6 5 110 127
rawnote 7 5 111 127
offcolor green
rawnote 0 6 112 127
rawnote 1 6 113 127
rawnote 2 6 114 127
rawnote 3 6 115 127
rawnote 4 6 116 127
rawnote 5 6 117 127
rawnote 6 6 118 127
rawnote 7 6 119 127
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 7 120 127
rawnote 1 7 121 127
rawnote 2 7 122 127
rawnote 3 7 123 127
rawnote 4 7 124 127
rawnote 5 7 125 127
rawnote 6 7 126 127
rawnote 7 7 127 127
channel 15
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11


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