Push Chord Patterns

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Push Chord Patterns

Post by Vo1t » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:27 pm

This instrument is very intriguing to me, you can play the scale from C1 to C4 just using 5 columns on the left.

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Use these patterns to play any chord you wish, as long as you have the pattern correct, you'll play the chord any where in any key. As you can see, the C major chord and D Major chord have the same pattern.

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Playing Major chords in every key within 3 octaves looks like this, you'd never do this in a song, but it shows how powerful this concept is.

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Iv'e invested more money than I'd like to admit into my Euro modular , Ableton, please tell me I can use Push through midi and use my cherished modular!

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by störgeräusche » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:49 pm

push-o-lar

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my guess is that you can "play" a midi track which is then routed wherever you want.
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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Jesse » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:05 pm

It's even easier when you play "In Key" - if you look on the Push page on our site, check out the "One shape per chord" picture. You only need to know one shape for every minor and major triad in all 12 keys.

(And yes, I run a bunch of hardware synths with Push, using External instrument devices and M4L to control the synths, from Push...you can even do MIDI to CV with M4L if you have the right audio interface (Motu or RME FF400).
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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by simmerdown » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:26 pm

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that looks so badass...doubles as a Tartus control panel i suspect

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Vo1t » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:58 pm

Jesse wrote:I run a bunch of hardware synths with Push.
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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by OzWozEre » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:31 pm

*bookmarked*

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Mage2k » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:22 pm

Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by login » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:39 pm

Mage2k wrote:Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).
it is new in a daw controller for sure, and it's the first mayor daw that offers it.

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Vo1t » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:25 pm

Mage2k wrote:Push's key layout is what's known as an isomorphic layout. In that respect Push is nothing new. What Push offers is a combination of features tailored to electronic music production with Live, of which the isomorphic note layout is just one. Ever looked at the buttons on an accordion? Isomorphic key layout. Do some Googling as there are other existing ismorphic MIDI controllers out there (there's even a couple of iPad apps with them).
Yah. but an accordion doesn't have key pressure that can be applied to the cutoff of a Moog filter!
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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by yur2die4 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:30 pm

So what you're saying is... Not only is this the most badass controller to software implementation to date, but it also trains you on playing the accordion?? I just keep getting more pumped about this!!!

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:37 pm

:lol:

cool post.
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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by ctx » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:12 am

For fluid playing you'll also want to memorize and get comfortable with the alternate chord shapes. You'll hit the edges as you move around (if you set up your preferred iPad app or launchpad with the same 8x8 pitch layout and start practicing you will run into this). Of course it may also just be an easier fingering regardless of the edges depending on what you're playing.

For example simple uninverted major chords:

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It's easy to work this out for any chord, just 5 to the left and up a row to get the same note.

This all assumes the chromatic layout of course.

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by yur2die4 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:16 am

I'm just sad that I've put so much practice into the frustrating 4 note chromatic layout via Lauchpad/Maschine, only to find that there will now be this... Which can be interpreted as 3 note. But on top of that have scale modes. !! Oh well haha

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by UncleAge » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:00 am

I'm hoping someone can make a Max patch so that it can do something similar to SoundPrism Pro.

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Re: Push Chord Patterns

Post by Clavdivs Mobivs » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:11 pm

If you own a Novation Launchpad you can use Midi Katapult to set it up as an Isomorphic keyboard. I'd like to share the Isomorphic keyboard template I use with Katapult. There are three pages, Chromatic, Diatonic, and Chords. Chords is a group of mid cc's I use to trigger midi clips containing chords I copied from Soundprism Pro. Download Katapult ( http://www.midikatapult.com/ ), follow the setup instructions in the documentation, then replace the text in the layout.txt file with the text below.

page 1 Chromatic
channel 15
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor green
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offcolor black
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor black
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offcolor amberlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor green
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor amberlow
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offcolor black
rawnote 7 4 70 100
offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 5 59 100
offcolor green
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offcolor black
rawnote 3 5 61 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 5 62 100
offcolor black
rawnote 5 5 63 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 5 64 100
rawnote 7 5 65 100
rawnote 0 6 53 100
offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor amberlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor green
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offcolor green
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 5 7 53 100
offcolor black
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offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 7 55 100
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11

page 2 Diatonic
channel 15
offcolor green
rawnote 0 0 72 100
offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 3 0 77 100
rawnote 4 0 79 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 5 0 81 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 0 83 100
offcolor green
rawnote 7 0 84 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 1 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 1 1 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 1 71 100
offcolor green
rawnote 3 1 72 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 1 74 100
rawnote 5 1 76 100
rawnote 6 1 77 100
rawnote 7 1 79 100
rawnote 0 2 62 100
rawnote 1 2 64 100
rawnote 2 2 65 100
rawnote 3 2 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 4 2 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 2 71 100
offcolor green
rawnote 6 2 72 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 2 74 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 0 3 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 3 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 2 3 60 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 3 62 100
rawnote 4 3 64 100
rawnote 5 3 65 100
rawnote 6 3 67 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 7 3 69 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 0 4 52 100
rawnote 1 4 53 100
rawnote 2 4 55 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 3 4 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 4 4 59 100
offcolor green
rawnote 5 4 60 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 4 62 100
rawnote 7 4 64 100
rawnote 0 5 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 1 5 48 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 2 5 50 100
rawnote 3 5 52 100
rawnote 4 5 53 100
rawnote 5 5 55 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 6 5 57 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 7 5 59 100
rawnote 0 6 41 100
rawnote 1 6 43 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 2 6 45 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 3 6 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 4 6 48 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 5 6 50 100
rawnote 6 6 52 100
rawnote 7 6 53 100
offcolor green
rawnote 0 7 36 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 1 7 38 100
rawnote 2 7 40 100
rawnote 3 7 41 100
rawnote 4 7 43 100
offcolor amberlow
rawnote 5 7 45 100
offcolor greenlow
rawnote 6 7 47 100
offcolor green
rawnote 7 7 48 100
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11

page 3 Chords
channel 16
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rawnote 5 0 69 127
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rawnote 7 0 71 127
offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 2 1 74 127
rawnote 3 1 75 127
rawnote 4 1 76 127
rawnote 5 1 77 127
rawnote 6 1 78 127
rawnote 7 1 79 127
offcolor green
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rawnote 2 2 82 127
rawnote 3 2 83 127
rawnote 4 2 84 127
rawnote 5 2 85 127
rawnote 6 2 86 127
rawnote 7 2 87 127
offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 7 3 95 127
offcolor green
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rawnote 2 4 98 127
rawnote 3 4 99 127
rawnote 4 4 100 127
rawnote 5 4 101 127
rawnote 6 4 102 127
rawnote 7 4 103 127
offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 2 5 106 127
rawnote 3 5 107 127
rawnote 4 5 108 127
rawnote 5 5 109 127
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rawnote 7 5 111 127
offcolor green
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rawnote 2 6 114 127
rawnote 3 6 115 127
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rawnote 5 6 117 127
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rawnote 7 6 119 127
offcolor greenlow
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rawnote 1 7 121 127
rawnote 2 7 122 127
rawnote 3 7 123 127
rawnote 4 7 124 127
rawnote 5 7 125 127
rawnote 6 7 126 127
rawnote 7 7 127 127
channel 15
offcolor yellow
cc 8 0 98 96
cc 8 1 98 64
cc 8 2 98 32
offcolor redlow
kbd 8 3 left
kbd 8 4 right
offcolor greenlow
kbd 8 5 control+f12
kbd 8 6 control+f11

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