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 Post subject: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:49 pm 

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Hi fellows.
I'm happy to announce that I'm about to deliver a new M4L device that I've worked on for some time.
This patch gives you a Push arrange mode, e.g it lets you control the arrangement view from Push.
In a nutshell: it lets you control horizontal/vertical track zoom, solo mute arm the selected track, unsolo unmute unarm all tracks, control the arrangement record, close the clip/view and the browser, control the arrange loop section, navigate through markers, active/deactive and warp/unwarp the selected clip, navigate between tracks...
It doesn't interfere with other Push modes, everything works as before... you just have a new mode.
It should be available tomorrow.
Cheers
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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:25 pm 

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Valiumdupeuple wrote:
Hi fellows.
I'm happy to announce that I'm about to deliver a new M4L device that I've worked on for some time.
This patch gives you a Push arrange mode, e.g it lets you control the arrangement view from Push.
In a nutshell: it lets you control horizontal/vertical track zoom, solo mute arm the selected track, unsolo unmute unarm all tracks, control the arrangement record, close the clip/view and the browser, control the arrange loop section, navigate through markers, active/deactive and warp/unwarp the selected clip, navigate between tracks...
It doesn't interfere with other Push modes, everything works as before... you just have a new mode.
It should be available tomorrow.
Cheers
J.


WOW! 8O 8O

Looking forward to this!

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:23 pm 

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Hey, it's available, some details:

This device gives your Push its missing Arrangement Mode (plus a few extra bonuses).
It doesn't interfere with other Push's modes, it just adds a new one.
The device mainly works on a "selected track" basis. Ultimately, the main goal of this patch is to use your mouse less, because for a lot of tasks this thing actually is... quite slow.
You'll need at least Live 9.1.3 and Max 6.1.7 if you want everything functions of this device to work as excpected.

So, what does this device do (that means nothing is removed from Push's default behaviour) ? :
- Solo, mute arm the selected track, and unsolo, unmute and unarm all the tracks.
- Zoom tracks vertically, navigate between them, and zoom the arrangement horizontally.
- There's also a button to open/close the tracks (that's an alternative to the vertical zoom).
- Adds an option to activate/deactivate a clip and turn on/off its warp form the Clip mode.
- Close and focus the various part of Live's window (like the Browser, the detail clip/device view...)
- Control the Global Record with the record button (why this one is not in the default factory Push script is a serious odditie !)
- Navigate the Arrangement with markers.
- Control the loop and punch in/out section.
- Control the draw mode.
- Control the "follow playback".
- Set Live's global quantization directly from Push.
- For some reasons it also makes recording audio, midi and automations in Arrangement problem free (lots of people seems to encounter some problems with this when using the default Push script.)
- Plus, you can also map some of these functions to your computer keyboard or to an other midi device.

You enter ArrangeMode with the SHIFT+SESSION buttons combination. Pressing only SESSION will bo to the default session view/mode.

Get it here for the evil price of 6,66€ (or more if you're rich and generous) :twisted:
PM me if you prefer paypal.

Have fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:28 pm 

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Here's the Manual

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:47 pm 

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Got it. Great idea. Would love to have control over opening i/o, sends, returns, full screen, etc. for both session and arrange views. Maybe the grid buttons could be used for these things?

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:49 pm 

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Dominga wrote:
Got it. Great idea. Would love to have control over opening i/o, sends, returns, full screen, etc. for both session and arrange views. Maybe the grid buttons could be used for these things?


These are good suggestions, but these functions are not natively accessible from m4l.
My personal patch (which is bit different) does things like that ( cut /copy/paste/erase...) but those things are only doable through keystrokes. The problem is that in order to do that I need to use a max external that only runs on osx AND in 32 bit. I can't make a public device with so many constraints.
Let's hope Ableton/Cycling adds those to the API soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:24 pm 

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ahh, gotcha. Well, I'm on OSX and run 32 bit....... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:18 am 

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Valiumdupeuple wrote:
Dominga wrote:
Got it. Great idea. Would love to have control over opening i/o, sends, returns, full screen, etc. for both session and arrange views. Maybe the grid buttons could be used for these things?


These are good suggestions, but these functions are not natively accessible from m4l.
My personal patch (which is bit different) does things like that ( cut /copy/paste/erase...) but those things are only doable through keystrokes. The problem is that in order to do that I need to use a max external that only runs on osx AND in 32 bit. I can't make a public device with so many constraints.
Let's hope Ableton/Cycling adds those to the API soon.


If you had Bomes you could make this and then distribute it as files for the (free) Bomes player. I'm not sure if it would be worth the hassle though for the little money you probably make with this.

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:11 pm 

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Sure Tom, but I much prefer an all-native/3rd party free solution.
Dominga, I might re-think about also distributing an osx/32 bit version only with keystrokes mapped on the pads.
To be followed...

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:36 am 

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Seems I missed this first time around. Screen dumps?

I assume this is to be used instead of PXT and not as a compliment? Regarding arrangement how is it unique featurewise to PXT?

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:06 am 

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Stromkraft wrote:
Seems I missed this first time around. Screen dumps?

I assume this is to be used instead of PXT and not as a compliment? Regarding arrangement how is it unique featurewise to PXT?


No it can be used in addition to. I use it for the kill mute/solo switches.


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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:34 pm 

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irrelevance wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:
Seems I missed this first time around. Screen dumps?

I assume this is to be used instead of PXT and not as a compliment? Regarding arrangement how is it unique featurewise to PXT?


No it can be used in addition to. I use it for the kill mute/solo switches.


OK, but what does it add to PXT? That is all just a list to me at the moment. I think I want it, but going for PXT first.

What is preferable with mute/solo here?

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:16 pm 

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Hi everyone,

I've updated my device to work with the new amazing Push2.
You should have received a download link from gumroad.
If for any reason you haven't, please let me know.
cheers
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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:47 pm 

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Sounds cool, can't wait to try it!

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 Post subject: Re: Push-ArrangeMode - control your arrangement view from Push
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:12 am 

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Valiumdupeuple, any chance you could add groove control to this gem or another device?

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