Re: Ableton 9: A message to HQ and the Community
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:59 pm
i read on another forum, that shall remain nameless, that the reverb had been greatly improved... are you not seeing that? is there perhaps another reverb stashed in the devices?condra wrote:Personally, I'm disappointed at the amount of device improvement/refinement, which is almost none at all. A couple of tweaks to Operator, Beat Repeat and Reverb would have gone a really long way for me.
I feel like this could apply to a lot of things. I'm surprised at the lack of "little tweaks."condra wrote: Personally, I'm disappointed at the amount of device improvement/refinement, which is almost none at all. A couple of tweaks to Operator, Beat Repeat and Reverb would have gone a really long way for me.
Just sayin', Live 8 (for me) = stable as Lindsey Lohan's mental state, while Live 9 = stable as.....I don't know, something that is really, really stable.ambientidm wrote:audio to midi + push
if live 9 is stable it is going to be amazing and a game changer for electronic music composition
i can't wait!!!
ambientidm wrote:audio to midi + push
if live 9 is stable it is going to be amazing and a game changer for electronic music composition
i can't wait!!!
for one you can rip any recording into midiSlightlydelic wrote:ambientidm wrote:audio to midi + push
if live 9 is stable it is going to be amazing and a game changer for electronic music composition
i can't wait!!!
game changer how exactly?
SpeedKing wrote:Just sayin', Live 8 (for me) = stable as Lindsey Lohan's mental state, while Live 9 = stable as.....I don't know, something that is really, really stable.ambientidm wrote:audio to midi + push
if live 9 is stable it is going to be amazing and a game changer for electronic music composition
i can't wait!!!
i'd say that those changes are closer to "easier to play in key" and "easier to copy other people's playing style" rather than game changing... Its not "we can slice up breakbeats and take music somewhere that turntable djs could never go" is it?ambientidm wrote:for one you can rip any recording into midi
like a miles davis trumpet solo for example or gil evans arrangements without know squat about reading or writing
the push controller allows you to set the grid to specific scales which will also make chord inversions and voice leading easy to see
i have been dreaming about this for years
this will be tons of fun with arps and note repeat
beat boxing drum loops into drum kits
i can't wait to try this on some zakir hussain
as far as voice leading is concerned the diatonic grid will be very powerful from a visual standpointoddstep wrote:i'd say that those changes are closer to "easier to play in key" and "easier to copy other people's playing style" rather than game changing... Its not "we can slice up breakbeats and take music somewhere that turntable djs could never go" is it?ambientidm wrote:for one you can rip any recording into midi
like a miles davis trumpet solo for example or gil evans arrangements without know squat about reading or writing
the push controller allows you to set the grid to specific scales which will also make chord inversions and voice leading easy to see
i have been dreaming about this for years
this will be tons of fun with arps and note repeat
beat boxing drum loops into drum kits
i can't wait to try this on some zakir hussain
It's really surprising for me ... : Many people don't get the reason why many Ableton's users (i'm one of them) are complaining for the lack of dual monitor support in Live ... This is NOT a question of "space", we simply want to have a "mixer window" and a separated "arrangement window" just like all other DAWS users can have ! And Live IS a DAW (and a very good one !) How can You say that it's mainly a Sw dedicated to Live Performances purposes ? Maybe it was so in very early versions but now You can use Live in Recording Studios for producing ... and a DAW MUST have dual monitor support ... I simply don't understand this "resistance" ...Machinesworking wrote:I'm fine with the new features. The main feature overlooked in your opinion is dual monitor support. It's my firm contention that Ableton will not budge on this. Early interviews with Gerhard Behles (the CEO or whatever of Ableton) had him flatly declaring his annoyance at floating windows, and that translates to the single window where even the embedded plug ins are not floating. So for the last 12 years or so that Live has been around they haven't changed course. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
The Automation issue in regards to PDC is the only one that I think is truly missing. Like a lot of users I'm not affected by it, but I respect the complaint for sure.
You're ignoring the part in my post that pertains to this:MAGNETO_66 wrote: It's really surprising for me ... : Many people don't get the reason why many Ableton's users (i'm one of them) are complaining for the lack of dual monitor support in Live ... This is NOT a question of "space", we simply want to have a "mixer window" and a separated "arrangement window" just like all other DAWS users can have ! And Live IS a DAW (and a very good one !) How can You say that it's mainly a Sw dedicated to Live Performances purposes ? Maybe it was so in very early versions but now You can use Live in Recording Studios for producing ... and a DAW MUST have dual monitor support ... I simply don't understand this "resistance" ...
It's quite simply their DAW, they design it. If you really need dual monitor support get one of the other full featured DAWs, because like I said 10+ years says very flatly that they aren't going to change because we all think it would be better. I'm not arguing that I agree with them. I've had dual monitor set ups and IMO considering that most of us use a laptop, and hook it to a larger screen at home we de facto have a dual monitor set up. But Ableton are not budging, hell the interface hasn't really changed in 10 years either!Machinesworking wrote:Early interviews with Gerhard Behles (the CEO or whatever of Ableton) had him flatly declaring his annoyance at floating windows, and that translates to the single window where even the embedded plug ins are not floating. So for the last 12 years or so that Live has been around they haven't changed course. I don't see it happening anytime soon.