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Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:25 pm
by dilshan89
Hey guys, I midi mapped a track's clips to my MPD32, and that worked great. Hooked up my keyboard, and the pads on the midi keyboard also trigger the clips somehow, even though I didn't ask it too. This would be fine if I knew how to stop these pads triggering the clips, but I don't. And to make it even worse, some keys on the keyboard trigger the clips too, and I definitely don't want that because now I can't play anything on the keyboard without triggering these clips. What should I do?

Thanks

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 pm
by yur2die4
They are on the same midi channel.

Change the keyboard to a different one.

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:30 pm
by dilshan89
Hey thanks for your reply. I'm a bit of a novice. How do I do that?

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:24 pm
by yur2die4
It is probably in the manual for the keyboard. Or you can change the channel of your other device, but afterward, it would require you to remap everything (unless you're using a script, then you lose functionality).

Right now your keyboard and device both send midi Notes. If they both use the same note, and you assign it on one, then whenever you hit that same note, it does the same thing on the other device. When you do the mapping, you can see two numbers. The midi channel number and the control change or note number.

One channel will only have one span of 128 max keys.

But if you use another midi channel, it gives you 128 fresh extra keys to use. There are 16 midi channels. Chances are, your devices are both set to channel 1 right now.

Definitely find the manuals and learn how to change it on whichever device you want.

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:32 pm
by dilshan89
Hey sorry about this. Looked in the manual and I can't find anything about changing midi channels. Is it something I have to do on the keyboard itself? Or through Ableton? Or in my computer's control panel? Heres the manual anyway, would you mind having a look as maybe I've misunderstood

http://d19ulaff0trnck.cloudfront.net/si ... guide2.pdf

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:17 pm
by yur2die4
That is the getting started manual.

Two things:
If you are using the keyboard in Automap mode, then you would change channels from Automap.

On the buttons near the display is one button called MIDI Chan. That probably has something to do with it :)

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:09 pm
by dilshan89
Thank you that really worked well. Although now I've decided to map the clips to the pads on the keyboard instead, but not only have the clips mapped to the pads, they've also mapped to the keys. How do I stop this from happening.

And in addition, is there anyway to only launch the clips using the pads when the track is activated? Because right now the pads (and unfortunately keys) launch the clips regardless of whether that track is activated

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:59 pm
by yur2die4
That starts getting a little more complicated. But for starters, I would change the channel of the pads only.

As for selecting tracks and stuff, that is really messy. My best suggestion is to map the play button at the bottom of each channel that is in Session View (next to track status ie chart looking thing), and then while in map mode in the scene launch section, some extra buttons come up. Up, down, and a number for knobs or faders. When you map those play buttons, you will trigger any clips that are on the highlighted scene.

Try it out :). Fun experiment!

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:48 am
by dilshan89
Thanks so much for all your help. I'm having trouble figuring out how to change the channel of the pads only. I can't find the details in the manual...

http://d19ulaff0trnck.cloudfront.net/si ... -guide.pdf

Re: Cant stop keyboard playing midi clips

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:26 am
by yur2die4
Page 19 for how to configure, maybe pages 17 and 18. Page 39 shows what parameters to expect to edit. Take your time and get used to it, one pad at a time :)