Sound design and writing. Separate, joined? What do you do?

[aioffermann]

Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

Hahaha yea. Well, I'm going to give it a go and report back. A week spent experimenting is a week well spent if you ask me. I'm more for creative exploration than tangible productivity at the moment.

And if it doesn't work, maybe I just need to consolidate the two ideas and design sounds while writing while still keeping earnest about filling up the velocity/note range of each instrument.

Also I should perhaps note that all my drums come from recordings that take up the whole frequency spectrum as they're field recordings.

[The Carpet Cleaner]

I've spent weeks procrastinating, so one week of sound design is not a waste of time

Good luck in your project and report back!

[cmockett]

i usually try to keep them separate, but cant help combining the two- inspiration is a two way street between those two elements if you ask me!

[Evengy]

Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

i think it´s more a method of experienced sound designers. i tried the other way around... writing a loop/mainpart/chords/bass/melody with a piano only and then i load operator and start to create my own sounds from scratch. so i learn a lot about writing without giving me a direction because of presets and i learn real sound design from scratch in a musical context. i worked a long time with presets, a bit of tweaking and writing a loop with that but the sounds/presets restricts me so i try another way.

if the piano works together with chords, bass, melody etc. its only a matter of designing the right sounds because i concentrate more on the groove. think about it like a whole track as a midi file (with or without BASIC piano drums).

i hope that helps!

[david.barker]

Im still learning computer based music,but I tend to write my ideas down,kind of story board
have a folder on the desktop,and put all my stuff in there

I tend to work from that designing sounds,that fit togehter,and usually have 3 versions going,before I decide on the final one

Tweaking the sounds,moving stuff ,automating,the usual suspects,

I usually land up with a test MP3 to listen to,before uploading onto Soundcloud

If I may interject, sir, you sure ain't fucking about.

Sure,although this is a kind of hobby for me,I have invested a lot of money and time,into something which I like a lot..
I started years back with Reason,creating sounds and got the bug from there
If I had the money I would like to do a proper course and hone my skills even further,he,he
I found my corner,as I like to produce ambient sounds,dark,etc

[The Carpet Cleaner]

Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

i think it´s more a method of experienced sound designers. i tried the other way around... writing a loop/mainpart/chords/bass/melody with a piano only and then i load operator and start to create my own sounds from scratch. so i learn a lot about writing without giving me a direction because of presets and i learn real sound design from scratch in a musical context. i worked a long time with presets, a bit of tweaking and writing a loop with that but the sounds/presets restricts me so i try another way.

if the piano works together with chords, bass, melody etc. its only a matter of designing the right sounds because i concentrate more on the groove. think about it like a whole track as a midi file (with or without BASIC piano drums).

i hope that helps!

Yes that s a good idea, the piano is a great composition tool.

[Destro]

Here are two great replies to your question:

http://www.musicsoftwaretraining.com/bl ... ngwriting/
(Author: Jason Timothy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_JReiE1uFk
(Author: DJ Vespers)

Inspiring stuff.