Realistic harp glissando with Tension

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marra
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Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by marra » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:33 pm

Can somebody help me recreate this?

http://soundcloud.com/ableton/ableton-t ... hetic-harp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOCND9dgTE

:mrgreen: sounds like heaven to me!! HEH :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

marra
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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by marra » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:57 pm

bump anyone

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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by marra » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:08 pm

bump can someone help please?

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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by jlgrimes » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:02 pm

marra wrote:Can somebody help me recreate this?

http://soundcloud.com/ableton/ableton-t ... hetic-harp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOCND9dgTE

:mrgreen: sounds like heaven to me!! HEH :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The scale tool is your friend, for sliding notes up and down the keyboard in a musical scale.

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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by marra » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:00 am

jlgrimes wrote:
marra wrote:Can somebody help me recreate this?

http://soundcloud.com/ableton/ableton-t ... hetic-harp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOCND9dgTE

:mrgreen: sounds like heaven to me!! HEH :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The scale tool is your friend, for sliding notes up and down the keyboard in a musical scale.
I'm more interested in the actual sound though. Anybody know how to recreate it, or maybe it's already part of some live pack?

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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by Garry Knight » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:06 pm

The Tension preset called Flange Harp is close to this sound. If you play with the Low Cut control and bring it down to about 67%, it's pretty close. As for the strumming, it's mostly about getting the start of each pluck right. Lower plucked-string notes last longer than higher ones. So the simplest way is to construct a chord, say a C2nd with notes C1, E1, G1, C2, E2, G2, C3, D3 in the piano roll and make it say, 1 bar long to start with. Drag the whole thing to the start of bar 2 (or just create it there in the first place), then highlight all but the top note. Drag the start of the highlighted notes a little way to the left. Now highlight from the 3rd note down and drag them a little further to the left. Now highlight from the 4th note down and drag them a little further to the left. Repeat this until you've dragged the bottom note to the left, and formed a series of small steps going up on the left-hand side of the chord.

Set this to loop so you can hear it repeatedly, then play with the starts of the note until the chord sounds the way you want it. Now you can drag the note ends to the length you want them. You need to remember that when strumming a stringed instrument, you hit the top string on the beat; the other strings should sound just before the beat. That means that if you want a strummed harp (or guitar, banjo, mandolin, etc) to come in at the start of a bar, you'll need to have your MIDI clip start before the bar and extend across into it.

Let me know if this isn't clear, and I'll try and simplicate it :wink:
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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by Airyck » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:34 am

I think everyone is frightened of Tension and Collision, maybe they don't feel like they know how to use them or that they are limited in the types of sounds they can make. Would be cool to see some tutorials on them (I know the manuals are available) that show some interesting ways to use them. I need to play with them more myself.
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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by marra » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:23 pm

thanks a lot guys!

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Re: Realistic harp glissando with Tension

Post by tedlogan » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:06 pm

Airyck wrote:I think everyone is frightened of Tension and Collision, maybe they don't feel like they know how to use them or that they are limited in the types of sounds they can make. Would be cool to see some tutorials on them (I know the manuals are available) that show some interesting ways to use them. I need to play with them more myself.
I love Collision and its little sibling, Corpus (which is the resonator module of Collision on its own as an audio effect). Combine these guys with Granulator and Max 4 Live and you're entering Kaivo territory.

Tension I've not made friends with yet. I'd rather just use Orchestral samples or Zebra and its modules + comb filters, which blows Tension out of the water. Or even Hive, with its reverb set to around 100% wet with very quick pre-delay and small roomsize = superb small-body resonator.

I've not tried Tension + Corpus yet, which is what i will do tonight.

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