Real-time audio to MIDI

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snugglepuff
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Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by snugglepuff » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:47 pm

I know it's a long shot but does anyone know if it will be possible to use Live 9's audio-to-MIDI capabilities in real time? As in control my synths with my friggin' guitar! :twisted: Because I would really be pleased. Even if somebody knows of a potential workaround to make this dream a reality I'd love to hear it. Thanks!

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by beats me » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:57 pm

If a 23 second delay works for you, then yes.

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by H20nly » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:08 pm

beats me wrote:If a 23 second delay works for you, then yes.
^ that.

i'm thinking major delay too.

maybe i'm forgetting something... i'm not in front of Live right now to check, but the only way i can see that working is if you had some sort of 3rd party software to automate the mouse movements and clicking process. converting audio to MIDI means that you have to right click on a track. you can't map that action to a controller AFAIK... so you'd have to map that action with something else.

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by TomViolenz » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:37 pm

snugglepuff wrote:I know it's a long shot but does anyone know if it will be possible to use Live 9's audio-to-MIDI capabilities in real time? As in control my synths with my friggin' guitar! :twisted: Because I would really be pleased. Even if somebody knows of a potential workaround to make this dream a reality I'd love to hear it. Thanks!
Maybe not with the audio to mido feature.
But maybe you could use the envelope follower in Live 9 (Max device) to control certain aspects of a synth by playing your guitar.
I think Tom Cosm did something related (though not live) in his Live 9 beta video.

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by H20nly » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:02 am

^ if you use a MIDI guitar... then you could control quite a bit more.

still won't help with opening the context menu and selecting Audio to MIDI options.

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by borg » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:17 am

Tried this the other day: http://www.jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/

Not there yet, but could become what you're after
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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by snugglepuff » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:58 pm

borg wrote:Tried this the other day: http://www.jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/

Not there yet, but could become what you're after
Yeah, widi VST does a pretty decent job too, as long as you don't care to preserve expression like bends and vibrato since it only communicates in rigid semitones. Reason does a great job, but can't receive audio as a ReWire slave. Oh well, somebody wake me up in like 50 years when I can just play everything with my mind. :P

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by MOSQUITOMAN » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:21 pm

hey

Do you know about this one?

http://www.sonuus.com/products_g2m_demo.html

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by snugglepuff » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:37 pm

MOSQUITOMAN wrote:hey

Do you know about this one?

http://www.sonuus.com/products_g2m_demo.html
Yeah, that's pretty cool too! The difference as far as I can tell is that widi VST is polyphonic, but can't communicate pitches in between the notes, while the Sonuus devices are monophonic but not limited in terms of pitch. Reason also does this pretty well if you use a lesser known feature of the Neptune pitch-thingy. I'm about to go demo the new midi guitar vst and see if that offers anything new.

I guess what I really wanted to know when I started this thread is if Live 9 would save me any money on this stuff :)

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by borg » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:13 am

snugglepuff wrote:
borg wrote:Tried this the other day: http://www.jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/

Not there yet, but could become what you're after
Yeah, widi VST does a pretty decent job too, as long as you don't care to preserve expression like bends and vibrato since it only communicates in rigid semitones. Reason does a great job, but can't receive audio as a ReWire slave. Oh well, somebody wake me up in like 50 years when I can just play everything with my mind. :P
I must add that only tried the iOs version of midi-guitar. It seems the Win/Mac versions are far more responsive. It seems to get great reviews.
As far as I can judge from reading this forum, Live9 is not going to give us realtime audio2midi... Just my guess.
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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by mathunderwood » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:05 am

Control voltage to Midi realtime. I own this guy. It's great.

http://www.electrongate.com/dmxfiles/unitrigger.html

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Re: Real-time audio to MIDI

Post by MOSQUITOMAN » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:52 pm

hey

WIDI Audio To MIDI VST plugin is designed for real-time Audio to MIDI conversion. The plugin receives input from an audio channel and performs real-time music recognition. Resulting MIDI events can be sent to the VST host, System MIDI Out Device or saved as a MIDI file with a simple MIDI recorder. The spectrum window displays streaming spectrogram in real-time with recognized notes above it. Also the plugin recognizes chords and displays chord name at the top of the spectrogram window. It is possible to control the delay of chord indication. Adjustable recognition parameters allow to improve recognition quality.

http://www.widisoft.com/english/widi-au ... i-vst.html

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