If money was no object???

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RZK
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If money was no object???

Post by RZK » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:34 am

If money (max 1000 USD per item)/expertise were no object what are say the 3 or 4 must have hardware components that would help make great electronic music using abelton? (asked by novice)

e.g
Akai MPK49
Abelton Push
etc.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by d.reamonn » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:33 pm

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by pepezabala » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:10 pm

I would get a producer/teacher and take lessons. will help you way better than any gear.

That said, Push appears to be the ultimate Ableton controller.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by login » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 pm

Yep, get one good hardware synth: Nord lead, virus, king korg and then get lessons to learn to play it.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by milfhuntr » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:05 pm

Well, for me I have some disposable income to buy stuff for Ableton. And I have bought many things and then sold them. I can tell you that all you really need are piano style keyboard input, drum pad input and slider, knob input. To me Push setup/mapping looks nice but would not help me out in the least and it has tiny buttons you couldn't play drums on. Everything it does I can do with keyboard and MPD.

I would say if you have space, ideal setup is AKAI MPD 32 for your drums. You need those big legendary AKAI pads.
Then you need some type of keyboard controller and you say money is no object so I would get the Yamaha Motif XF because the feel of the keyboard on the 88 key one is legendary and it can actually be used like a VST.

Other than that, if you need to launch a whole bunch of clips in a live performance, I would say the AKAI APC 20 could be added. And I mean a BUNCH of clips. Because if you think about it, the MPD 32 can launch quite a few clips, what with several banks of 16 pads. That's why I don't have an APC, because I launch my clips with my MPD32 if need be.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by antarktika » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:52 pm

milfhuntr wrote:You need those big legendary AKAI pads.
The pads on the Akai models are definitely legendary, for requiring mod kits or DIY electrical tape fixes to make them playable.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by d.reamonn » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:08 pm

I don't have any pads. are you saying I can't make music?
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Re: If money was no object???

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:20 pm

I'd return the money if I could only make electronic music. :x
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Re: If money was no object???

Post by djadonis206 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:45 pm

Piano and drum lessons
Ableton | Elektron

Music

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:08 pm

I'm going to assume that a good, fast computer is already assumed. But seriously, fast cpu is one fo the most important things to have with Ableton Live, because with decent latency, you don't really want to push your cpu meter in Live over about 50%. Ram is also important if using sampled instruments.

Other than computer specs, basically you want a good audio interface, good speakers, a good session controller/ midi controllers, a drum controller and a keyboard.

I would suggest:

1. The best speaker monitors money can buy.
2. A good quality, stable, low latency audio interface like RME Fireface UC or Apogee Quartet.
3. Ableton Push (For drum control and session control)
4. Novation Remote SL61 (Or similar keyboard with good control options - knobs etc.)

I'd also suggest an iPad with a few control apps like Lemur, Touchable, Griid and Konkrete Performer.
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Re: If money was no object???

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:29 pm

djadonis206 wrote:Piano and drum lessons
when I get those thoughts I imagine the first thing a teacher could ask is, 'how much am I currently practicing?' and I go practice.

you can do it.
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Re: If money was no object???

Post by Analog Ghost » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:39 pm

APC80 (APC40 and APC20 Together) / Analog Factory for Arturia (sub 500 midi controller with a hella good VST) / Spend 1K on samples and VSTs so you have quality sounds / Spend 500 on books and tutorials so you can pull all the power out of Ableton. / And then get something to make your set fun like pads or something. Its really an impossible questions because everyone likes what they like. I know people who hate APC controllers. So it all depends.

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by H20nly » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:41 pm

a set of Focal monitors. 8)

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by jestermgee » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 pm

More acoustic treatment!!! :x

Such a hard thing to spend cash on especially when you get 40 "foam" tiles in boxes it's a bit hard to hide the purchase from the missus and explain why it costs several hundred $$$$

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Re: If money was no object???

Post by andydes » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:32 pm

A singer.

A hot one.

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