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"What is so special about Live?"


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Sometimes in old docs about music concrete or the BBC radiophonic workshop you see people working on tape decks with lots of little snippets of tape all labelled and hung up around their workstation on improvised racks.

To me Session View is the modern equivalent of that.

Well there are, what were they called again, Devices in Reason. Or combinators or something. They had some of the routing possibilities that we will now have with M4L in live. But they were a real hassle to set up.

I've worked in Reason, Cubase, Live. For me there is no comparison; for intuitive interfaces and bringing back the pleasure and fun in making music, Live has few equals.

It will be interesting to check out BitWait when it comes out.

Its' got the best forum

Well I would say this is a stupid question live has a unique workflow when my compositions are done I can mix and master
or I can bring them on stage with controllers and rock a party.

This 9 upgrade upset me so much. First of all, to get the 40GB content I had to spend $700 on new packs.

I had live 8 suite, a huge library, eic-2, to replace that with 9 cost me over $1,000, before PUSH.

This is ridiculous.

And the either or with the 32-bit/64 is totally BS. I'm going back to cubase. I can have both versions, I need about 15 VSTs
loaded to compose. Then I can render down and work in 32 bit. But Ableton forces me to do one or the other.

They don't integrate the 8 library, they don't give EIC users or 8 suite users incentive to buy the new packs and are REDUNDANT with live 8s library, just a little better quality.

This is the biggest scam of a DAW upgrae in history.

Unfortunately it is the most intuitive DAW for me to compose in. Having to stay in 32 bit mode in 2013 is just ridiculous.

They use should have played out free 8.x upgrades until they got this right.

I'm finally going to crack that cubase book.

I think Ableton has treated loyal users (i've got two licenses just for the easy of getting too like jerks and I couldn't recommend
anybody getting into this product without buying a cheap older version and waiting for them to get a fully 64/32bit version running where you don't have to spend over $1,000 to get the basic library of sounds.

Its just BS. I own EIC-2, they have no discount to replace the strings, piano, etc.

Most DAWs come with many soft synths and huge libraries.

I love the concept but as a company you are treating people like crap in this down economy.

I love live, I love it, but I had to max out my cards and might loose my truck or not be able to eat to perform the upgrade.

That doesn't seem right.

Wish I had a MAC I would pirate all your shit to death. I don't believe in piracy but Ableton deserves it.

IMHO, screwed every way but sunday by ableton.

I've used Reason for 4 years and decided to add Live 8 ,(and then after a while upgraded to the Suite version), after seeing some demos,etc

The very first thing that grabbed my attention,is how easy it is to get an idea up and running.No messing around working out audio routing (as sometimes in Reason,you can get bogged down and very frustrated.Meaning the enjoyment of making music,is lost )

The whole one screen layout take some getting used to initially,but you soon feel at home,everything is to hand and ,as I discovered ,side chaining, Rewire,to Reason,etc,etc so damn easy to set up

Please don't get me started on warping,or the new live 9 features, and sounds ,ha,ha

.Its a thumbs up from me ( as a new -ish user) despite the launch day problems that occurred!

One very happy chap

pablorotter wrote:
Unfortunately it is the most intuitive DAW for me to compose in.

Yes, that totally sucks, doesn't it.