Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

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Timbeaux
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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Timbeaux » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:16 pm

sure i can

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Goddard » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:28 pm

I've noticed kind of development with 9.0.2 on my MBP... Keeping my fingers crossed.
Unfortunately it's not the same story with my iMac. It crashed during the first session after updating to 9.0.2.
It happened while openning Kontakt 4 (samples?)... I repeated it a few times and got the same response.
Crash reported to Ableton...
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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by snakedogman » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:08 pm

housemusiclover wrote:
K1D1M35N wrote:There's a program called "Everything" (Win) which finds every file on your HD in seconds (by name) wihtout indexing, if Live had something like that implemented there wouldn't be days of indexing.
thanks, that program is a lifesaver
just for the record: i of course hate the new browser :cry:
uh, sorry but Everything uses indexing. It just happens to be very fast.

From the Everything FAQ:
1.2 How long will it take to index my files?

"Everything" only uses file and folder names and generally takes a few seconds to build its database.
A fresh install of Windows XP SP2 (about 20,000 files) will take about 1 second to index.
1,000,000 files will take about 1 minute.
Great little program though.

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by One Reason » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:33 pm

beatz01 wrote:
Amaury wrote:No indexing at all is not an option.
Why not?


...and if not, you guys better get ur indexing \ browser woes fixed soon, or I foresee quite a drop in your bottom line as people migrate other DAW's that dont slow, or restrict workflow.

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by beatz01 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:49 pm

One Reason wrote:
beatz01 wrote:
Amaury wrote:No indexing at all is not an option.
Why not?


...and if not, you guys better get ur indexing \ browser woes fixed soon, or I foresee quite a drop in your bottom line as people migrate other DAW's that dont slow, or restrict workflow.
Amen to that.

People might not neccessarily switch to other DAWs but very likely just stay with L8.

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by One Reason » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:50 pm

[/quote]Ok I see what you're saying. I used the wrong words. The fact that the indexer doesn't impact audio playback is not by chance though, rather by design.[/quote]

That is nonsense, my audio skips on and off while recording and playback during indexing. :?

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by vido » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:45 pm

Actually: to me the new browser is a dream come true.
Collab with Jeremy Blake of Red Means Recording:

Blake and Axe; "All The Light I Do Not See"
Spotify: https://goo.gl/MR8Wjr
Tidal: https://goo.gl/s35W33
Google Play: https://goo.gl/HQ1g7E
Amazon: https://goo.gl/cx5dUL

Not the usual stuff.

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by H20nly » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:49 pm

vido wrote:Actually: to me the new browser is a dream come true.
:lol: this is unacceptable!

you clearly are not making music right!

[/sarcasm]

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Goddard » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:30 pm

Just for the record.
9.0.2 works... Both MBP and iMac...
Keeping my fingers crossed and eyes open...
After all that complaining I feel obliged to report improvement.
I'm satisfied!
So long at least...
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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Quez » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:42 pm

My wish right now is that the browser would keep folders open without having to use cmd but still, had no indexing issue here but all is on local drive.

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by androids » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:04 am

Timbeaux wrote:thx 4 the reply, but i downloaded live 9, installed it, added the folder and it was there, no 3 hours of waiting. so is my library not indexed yet?
Indexation is still running if you have the icon on the left ot the "PLACES" label.
Once it finished the icon disapear.

Yes it does instantly show up, but if you have a lot of sub- and sub-sub-folders with many files it take a very long time to achieve.

Maybe you dont have a lot of file, but all of them are pretty big ?
Or your disk is SSD ?

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Timbeaux » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:51 am

naahh, that are many files. i tried it again with another folder i dint put inplaces. and now i recognized the indexing symbol. but it disappeared after 5 seconds.

Maybe i just didnt recognized it when i put my main sample folder in places. Does the indexing affect the performance/cpu usage?

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by androids » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:42 am

Timbeaux wrote:naahh, that are many files. i tried it again with another folder i dint put inplaces. and now i recognized the indexing symbol. but it disappeared after 5 seconds.

Maybe i just didnt recognized it when i put my main sample folder in places. Does the indexing affect the performance/cpu usage?

Well yes and no.

No because on fast machines it runs in the background with no interference.

Yes because it still use CPU, and the CPU it takes would not be available for Live ...

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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by Goddard » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:18 pm

Just want to confirm that my 9.0.2 still runs smooth as a dream...
My problems (crashes) were related to Automap...
As an old conservative prick I still have my Automap Pro 3.7.4. (the last one you had to pay for...) installed on my iMac. Time to update this one as well...
On MBP I have Automap 4 and had no issues with 9.0.2 at all.
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Re: Live 9 browser NIGHTMARE !!!

Post by drez » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:30 pm

Thanks for that update Goddard. That gives me some confidence in actually installing Live 9!

I've been reluctant to install 9 on my new MBP because of the indexing issue. I've got an SSD and am going to purchase an external SSD for samples, but first I was just going to install all the packs and not mess with the samples yet just to get familiar with 9 and start writing some music with it. I was also considering getting the new Puremagnetik Rackmagnet and load up some packs as well.

Does this seem like a safe bet?
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