Live 9 Performance Test

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mikb
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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by mikb » Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:29 pm

***Update for Mavericks 9.1***

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter %.......... 60%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model?.......... Apple Macbook Pro "Core2Duo Santa Rosa"
3) Operating System?..........Mac OS X 10.9.1
4) Ableton Live version?..........9.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed?..........Intel, T7500, 2.2ghz
6) Amount of Ram?..........6gb
7) Soundcard..........Native Instruments Audio 2, latest driver
8 ) Hard Disk Drive Speed?..........5400 RPM (Seagate SSD Hybrid)
9) Number of playback tracks?..........8 tracks
10) 64 or 32bit live?..........64bit
11) Max amount of tracks before crackling..........14

I could do at best 14 tracks at 95% CPU without audible cracks. This is 2 less tracks (and the CPU is seemingly used significantly more) than under Live 9 on OS X 10.6.8 (see earlier report in may). On the plus side lowering the latency buffer size to only 64 samples doesn't affect the sound at all.

In the 32bit version of Live I very much repeated my earlier report under OS X 10.6.8 in may 2013, now in under OS X 10.9.1.
Last edited by mikb on Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by mikb » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:06 pm

I must say that I doubt the validity of the current test as currently designed. Especially so for evaluating 32bit vs 64bit performance under 64bit systems, like in my case OS X 10.9 Mavericks.

In 32bit Live 9.1 when I run a mere 2 simple tracks with Native Instruments Battery 4 and Absynth 5 I have to set the latency buffer to 2048 samples to not get crackling during playback. In 64bit Live 9.1 I can use 64 samples. The difference being I can't successfully play softsynth patches without heavy latency in 32bit Live. It's virtually useless to me under Mavericks.

Using software instruments of course affect the picture as they use up available CPU power. Maybe testing a simple demo song making more use of built-in software instruments would give more representative and therefore usable figures?
Last edited by mikb on Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by turnitto11 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 pm

1) CPU Meter 34% peak
2) Early 2011 13" MacBook Pro
3) OS X 10.9.1
4) Live 9.1
5) 2.7 GHz dual-core i7
6) 16GB ram
7) Built in soundcard
8 ) Samsung 840 Evo SSD
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64bit
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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by superistic » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:14 am

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter 12%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Custom Built PC
3) Operating System? Windows 7 64-bit SP1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core i7 4770K @ 3.5Ghz
6) Amount of Ram? 8gb Corsair Vengeance Blue Low Profile DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? RME Fireface UFX
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? Intel SSD X25-M 160gb & Intel SSD 330 Series 240gb
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? 32 bit

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by mikb » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:20 am

Guys, what about 11) Max amount of tracks before crackling..........?
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by raapie » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:11 pm

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 17% (8 tracks)
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? MacBook Pro retina 15" late 2013 model
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7
6) Amount of Ram? 16 Gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? internal

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 17% (8 tracks)
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? MacBook Pro retina 15" late 2013 model
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7
6) Amount of Ram? 16 Gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by dj madmatt » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:32 pm

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter 15%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Custom Built PC
3) Operating System? Windows 8.1 64-bit
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 3 Ghz
6) Amount of Ram? 4 GB Patriot Signature DDR3 CL9 1600 MHz
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? E-MU 0404 PCI
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? WD 320 GB SATA 2 Raid0 7200 rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? 32 bit

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by mikb » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:03 am

dj madmatt wrote:1) Ableton Live CPU Meter 15%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Custom Built PC
3) Operating System? Windows 8.1 64-bit
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 3 Ghz
6) Amount of Ram? 4 GB Patriot Signature DDR3 CL9 1600 MHz
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? E-MU 0404 PCI
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? WD 320 GB SATA 2 Raid0 7200 rpm
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? 32 bit
And what about 11) Max amount of tracks before crackling..........? I mean, that's the test actually.
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by M-bition » Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:09 pm

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter 11%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Custom Built PC
3) Operating System? Windows 7 64-bit
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.2
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel I7-4770K stock speed
6) Amount of Ram? 16 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 CL10 1600 MHz
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? Samsung 840 EVO 500gb
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64bit

Maximum Tracks: 132

9% @ 4.4 GHz with 150 tracks max

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by alpertt » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:28 am

raapie wrote:1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 17% (8 tracks)
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? MacBook Pro retina 15" late 2013 model
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7
6) Amount of Ram? 16 Gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? internal

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter: 17% (8 tracks)
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? MacBook Pro retina 15" late 2013 model
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.1
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7
6) Amount of Ram? 16 Gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
Are you sure you changed output settings from lives preferences?
I have significant difference between onboard and external.

1A) Ableton Live CPU Meter >>> onboard 22%
1B) Ableton Live CPU Meter >>> Zoom H4N 16%
1C) Ableton Live CPU Meter >>> TC Impact Twin 20%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? >>> MBP 2012 unibody (9.1)
3) Operating System >>>>>>>>>> ML 10.8.5
4) Ableton Live version >>>>>> 9.1.2
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed >> 2.6 Ghz Intel Core i7
6) Amount of Ram? >>>>>>>>>>> 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
7A) Soundcard (and driver version)>> onboard ??
7B) Soundcard (and driver version)>> Zoom H4N Ver: 1.72
7C) Soundcard (and driver version)>> TC IT Ver: 3.2.0
8 ) Hard Disk Drive Speed >>>>>>>>> 500 GB SSD
9) Number of playback tracks? >>>> 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? >>>>>>> 64bit

Maximum tracks before glitch: Onboard SC: 75-80
Zoom H4N: 100-105
Impact Twin: 80-82
It's funny, Zoom gives better results than TC. I didn't expect that.

One more thing: I tested on both SSD and 5400 RPM hdd, and results are the same.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by skullneck » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:26 pm

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter? 65%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? 2014 New iMac 21.5"
3) Operating System? OS X Mavericks 10.9.3
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.2
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
6) Amount of Ram? 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? Core Audio
8 ) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? 500GB Serial ATA Drive
9) Number of playback tracks? 8
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by Noddingmoose » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:26 am

I came across this thread while trying to determine if there would be any benefit in switching my main Windows 7 desktop over to OSX Mavericks (ie turn it into a hackintosh). It’s not a completely accurate comparison - SSDs are different; I’m using 32bit Live on Windows and haven’t updated anything in ages, whereas I downloaded 64bit Live on OSX and everything is up to date. I also ran the test on my Mac Mini (albeit with onboard sound) just for the sake of comparison.


Mac Mini
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter at 8 tracks - 28%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Mac mini (Late 2012)
3) Operating System? OSX 10.8.5
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.3
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2.5Ghz Intel core i5
6) Amount of Ram? 4GB 1600MHz
7) Soundcard? onboard sound
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed? 5400 - 500GB Apple HDD
9) Max playback tracks? 48
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64

PC Win 7
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter at 8 tracks - 14%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Gigabyte X58A-UD3P (desktop motherboard)
3) Operating System? Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
4) Ableton Live version? 9.0.6
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 6GB 1600MHz
7) Soundcard? M-Audio Fast Track Ultra
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 120GB SSD
9) Max playback tracks? 100
10) 64 or 32bit live? 32

PC OSX Mavericks (same physical hardware as above running on a separate SSD).
1) Ableton Live CPU Meter at 8 tracks - 14%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Gigabyte X58A-UD3P (desktop motherboard)
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.4
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.3
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz
6) Amount of Ram? 6GB 1600MHz
7) Soundcard? M-Audio Fast Track Ultra
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? Crucial M500 240GB SSD
9) Max playback tracks? 88
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by m:o » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:42 am

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter at 8 tracks - 9% stable
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Selfbuilt Desktop PC (Asus Z97 Pro)
3) Operating System? Win 7 SP1
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.4
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? I7 4770K @ 3,5 Ghz (stock speed)
6) Amount of Ram? 8 GB @ 2,4 Ghz
7) Soundcard? RME Multiface I via HDSP PCIe Card
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed? 120 GB Samsung SSD
9) Max playback tracks? 142
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64 Bit
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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by adam_mc » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:17 pm

I am currently struggling with my Macbook heating up like crazy for Ableton. I find that the results of the test differ incredibly based on the temperature of my machine.

) Ableton Live CPU Meter at 8 tracks - 15%
2) Laptop/Desktop? Make/Model? Macbook Pro i7 Quadcore 2.2 Ghz. 2012
3) Operating System? OSX 10.9.4
4) Ableton Live version? 9.1.4
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2.2Ghz Intel core i7
6) Amount of Ram? 8gb
7) Soundcard? Saffire 6 (Core Audio Driver)
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed? 5400 - 500GB Apple HDD
9) Max playback tracks? 64
10) 64 or 32bit live? 64

HOWEVER . . .
Get the fans spinning beyond 6000rpm and it is all change . . .
\Now 23% for 8 tracks.

Audio breakup at 32 tracks.

Nothing else seems to beat the shit out of my machine like live. And it is getting worse.

8 weeks ago it wasn't like this.

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Re: Live 9 Performance Test

Post by eyeknow » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:08 am

EDIT, oopps, n/m

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