Sound Design help needed - dry and smooth sub bass

[trennscharf]

Hi all,

i am looking for a while for a nice, dry and smooth bass - i am getting closer but any kind of VST or technique i use its not clean and dry enough. Also only be heard on my monitors or headphones - but not on a normal Stereo

Do you have any ideas which VST and or Effects to use for this kind of bass.
Usually i am using sinus wave based patches, a LP Filter EQ and Comps.

Here are some examples - sry for the bad quality

Maurizio M5 and others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iXCwils ... KgtMit1XI8

Pole Sounds e.g. this live act here - around min 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ribVZVYIwJs

R&S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RskJZOoY34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0yS2102gM

[d.reamonn]

Maurizio M5 and others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iXCwils ... KgtMit1XI8

Sample or (sine/(Square+Filter))+Pre/Post Distortion.

Pole Sounds e.g. this live act here - around min 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ribVZVYIwJs

Sine.

R&S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RskJZOoY34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0yS2102gM[/quote]

Sample or (sine/(Square+Filter))+Pre/Post Distortion+(Some rather nice dynamic work).