Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

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The Phat Conductor
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Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by The Phat Conductor » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:25 am

Live 9 Users: How do you activate Live 8 arrange view clip envelope behavior? All I can see is MIDI CC in the envelope editor.

It IS possible... I just can't find the menu option or button anywhere.

Try opening this test in both 8 + 9 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/eqlyme

You can see I have a Clip Envelope modulating against Track Automation... You can do this in Live 8 (where I made the tester), but the devices and parameters won't populate to the arrange view clip envelope editor in Live 9 under normal conditions. The only way to activate it I have found is to automate it in Live 8 and then open in 9. This is obviously not practical.

There must be a way somewhere... I can see it working in Live 9 when I load my test set.

How?

Modulating Clip Envelopes against Track Automation is a MAJOR part of the way I automate.

Please help

Thanks!

Dylan
ill gates aka the phat conductor
producer, performer + ableton/music teacher

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The Phat Conductor
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Re: Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by The Phat Conductor » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:43 am

I could kiss you!

Thanks :D
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producer, performer + ableton/music teacher

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radiance2004
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Re: Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by radiance2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:06 pm

I can see the "show modulation" but it's grey-ed out by me...

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Re: Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by radiance2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:12 pm

OK, figured it out. I had to set the envelopes to "Unlinked" first. After clicking the "show modulation, the modulation was shown AND the envelopes had returned to their "Linked" state.
So, when the envelopes are in "LInked" state the "show modulation" is grey-ed out. Is this a bug?


Jamoflage
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Re: Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by Jamoflage » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:14 pm

Having modulation AND automation is a huge plus for me in ableton 9 :lol:

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Re: Can't See Anything But CC in Live 9 Arrange Clip Envelopes?

Post by JimiJ_Real » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:11 pm

Thank god for this thread! Been talking to brick walls at Ableton about how to figure this simple problem out. Used to be so easy in 8

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