Looper doesn't work with Monitor Off, correct?

[Bodega.]

Hi folks,

I'm trying to figure out how to record audio without latency using Looper and can't seem to figure out what everybody else apparently has. I've got the manual open in front of me but it doesn't seem to mention monitoring, and I've searched this forum but, again, what I see doesn't seem to match up with what people are describing.

I'm not using any monitoring within Ableton, that's all done through my soundcard (RME Babyface).

I can record into Looper with no problems as long as Monitoring on the track is set to In or Auto and I don't use Drag Me!. If I grab any audio and move it to a track I'll have to tweak every one by about a 128th or 64th note to get them to line up. This isn't workable during a live performance.

If I understand correctly, the Input > Output knob controls whether the audio signal that has already reached the plugin will be sent to monitors - which in my case I don't need, since I monitor through my audio interface.

It seems to me like my options are:

1) Select In or Auto for track monitoring and have to manually adjust all the audio I record after dragging it onto a track.

OR

2) Select Off and no audio reaches the Looper at all.

Is this correct?

thanks!
Matthew

[anamexis]

The timing issues can be fixed by correctly setting your audio interface latency. Check out the "Setting up Audio I/O" lesson to get walked through this.

[Bodega.]

I've gone through that process and the problem remains.

[Bodega.]

Bump for the next-weekend warriors...

[arigold]

I'm in a similar situation.. did ya figure anything out?

Thanks!

[Bodega.]

Good question! It's been nearly a decade since I've needed to do that.

[yur2die4]

You want monitoring in.

Choosing not to output the audio that is input will block your monitoring so that you won't hear your original guitar through Live, it'll do the direct monitoring through your interface only.

As for an offset, I usually do Not set up or use latency compensation. But I also usually decide to endure latency through monitoring in the software instead of direct monitoring. I also don't use delay error compensation.

If you have low latency drivers selected for your interface, it might still have a perceivable latency, but very small. It's kind of a trade off for using the muscle power of a computer.

[fishmonkey]

I also don't use delay error compensation.

btw, if your audio interface driver is reporting accurate latency values, then your DEC would be zero anyway.

[yur2die4]

For me, the reason I don't use it is because I made the decision to play based off of the output of the software and what I hear from the computer instead of what I might hear from the instrument. Since I'm basing how I play off of what I hear from that, any adjustments made to clips after that would make it a mess.

The reason it needs to compensate is because monitoring is usually done through direct monitoring.

But once you start having the computer do more than just record. Once you're interacting with it. This just turns into a giant mess.