Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

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Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by eyeknow » Fri May 24, 2013 6:31 am

I know, some of you haven't had the issue with losing your packs. Feel lucky. For those of us who have, MOTHER OF GOD, these things have taken so much time to load, and I've now had to do it several times. :x

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by artpunk » Fri May 24, 2013 8:51 am

Ummm... Could it possibly be because some of them contain, literally, gigabytes of data?

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by naburo » Fri May 24, 2013 9:14 am

i experienced the same.

Loading with my Win7 system took hours,
my MBP setup was way quicker
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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by kitekrazy » Fri May 24, 2013 3:23 pm

artpunk wrote:Ummm... Could it possibly be because some of them contain, literally, gigabytes of data?
I've installed Komplete in less time. You could install Windows 8 on 4 machines in less time.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by eyeknow » Fri May 24, 2013 11:33 pm

artpunk wrote:Ummm... Could it possibly be because some of them contain, literally, gigabytes of data?
Hi artpunk,

I'm talking about ONE pack, not all of them. It literally takes what seems like an eternity for EACH one. That's what I'm referring to, sorry I wasn't clear. I have no issue whatsoever with the combined time taking so long.

Coupled with the facts I've done this now 3 times and live somehow doesn't see them out of the blue is frustrating.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by artpunk » Sat May 25, 2013 3:20 am

eyeknow wrote:
artpunk wrote:Ummm... Could it possibly be because some of them contain, literally, gigabytes of data?
Hi artpunk,

I'm talking about ONE pack, not all of them. It literally takes what seems like an eternity for EACH one. That's what I'm referring to, sorry I wasn't clear. I have no issue whatsoever with the combined time taking so long.

Coupled with the facts I've done this now 3 times and live somehow doesn't see them out of the blue is frustrating.
Understood. I'm not sure what's happening with your hardware - software set-up but I do know what is like, having to do a clean re-install of Mountain Lion on my Core 2 Duo iMac yesterday. Installing all the packs took a while, but nothing I wouldn't expect given the content size of the packs and existing hardware limitations like data transfer rates. I am really in the dark as to why your copy of Live doesn't see/recognise them? When I do aninstall pack the pack appears in the browser and it's info come up as soon as the installation is complete.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by eyeknow » Sat May 25, 2013 6:47 am

I just think that even they low-impact packs take forever.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by SuburbanThug » Sat May 25, 2013 6:52 am

I'm pretty sure it has to do with the bandwidth they have in Germany versus the bandwidth you're used to...

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by artpunk » Sat May 25, 2013 8:39 am

eyeknow wrote:I just think that even they low-impact packs take forever.
The smaller packs load quite quickly on my old iMac...
SuburbanThug wrote:I'm pretty sure it has to do with the bandwidth they have in Germany versus the bandwidth you're used to...
...are we talking about downloading the packs or installing them into Live from a downloaded .alp file?

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by SuburbanThug » Sat May 25, 2013 8:45 am

Oh, shit. I assumed he meant downloading since mine load quick as hell. That's weird. Our specs seem pretty close. Only difference is I'm on a Mac. Score one for Apple! Don't get many of those nowadays...

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by nbinder » Sat May 25, 2013 9:41 am

Both downloading (up to 12MB/sec) as well as installing packs was pretty fast for me. However, both my internet connection as well as drive (SSD) are better than average, I guess.

But: When installing packs, neither my CPU nor the hard drive were anywhere near peak performance. I was really wondering what Live is doing (extracting -> CPU, copying -> HD), especially because Live always got to ~40% super fast but then stayed there for quite a while.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by eyeknow » Sat May 25, 2013 7:35 pm

Wow. That's interesting.

I'm talking about installing, yes. I'm not worried about dl'ing (though I wish there were updates listed in you user account when a pack is updated)

Well, load times are snappy for me even with a template load and others are complaining about that so yeah, par for the course. Bad for some, good for others. :lol:

Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I've always just drag/droped the pack on the browser to install.

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by darkenedsoul » Sat May 25, 2013 8:57 pm

Defragging could help speed things up perhaps but then again, some of the packs have a lot of stuff to put into place (lots of smaller files = takes time to put them into place, same for large files). But I don't recall having packs take a *super* long time to install. Again, a defrag could help speed things up a tad, could also depend on processor speed/memory total (4gb/8gb/16gb).

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Re: Why do "packs" take SO LONG to load?

Post by artpunk » Mon May 27, 2013 3:27 am

eyeknow wrote: Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I've always just drag/droped the pack on the browser to install.
I have always installed packs by File -> Install Pack, but I'm nit sure why this should be any different from drag & drop. Since I cleared a lot of junk off my hard drive I have noticed things are a bit snappier (my hard drive was pretty full)

“... it was just to make an average listener go: ‘What the fuck is this?’ That’s a real inspiration for me and something that I will explore more on upcoming recordings.”
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