Behringer Tweakalizer

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Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by re:dream » Mon May 27, 2013 9:05 am

Hi there

I have been shopping for a DJ control for Live (e.g. Nocturn) and someone has just offered me a Nocturn PLUS something called a Behringer Tweakalizer.

Have any of you ever worked with a Behringer Tweakalizer? Can it be used with Live? Is it worth having?

Advice will be welcome!

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Timbeaux » Mon May 27, 2013 1:50 pm

its not a real quality piece of hardware effect tool. but its around 100 euro when u buy it new.

cool feature is that u can use up to 6 effects at the same time (and in real time), but the kill eq is not that good. there are still some frequencies.

if u get it really cheap it could be fun to have

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Jack McOck » Mon May 27, 2013 3:08 pm

The Nocturn is the shittiest piece of junk I've ever used. I was given one for free by Computer Music Magaisine (for being awesome), and I've never found a use for it. If you want to DJ with Live, get yourself some real gear.

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by re:dream » Mon May 27, 2013 3:19 pm

I know :(

I have real reservations about Nocturn. Last time I tried to use it, Automap pretty near drove me up the wall.

But what real gear? What are the alternatives? All the midi controllers I see out there are basically clip launchers.

What do you suggest? A pair of CDJs? Serrato? I'm really interested to hear.

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Jack McOck » Mon May 27, 2013 3:40 pm

The Finn wrote:I know :(

I have real reservations about Nocturn. Last time I tried to use it, Automap pretty near drove me up the wall.

But what real gear? What are the alternatives? All the midi controllers I see out there are basically clip launchers.

What do you suggest? A pair of CDJs? Serrato? I'm really interested to hear.
You'd probably best be discussing this someone who has made more than my meager CHF 10'000 playing live, but in general, you'd first need to look at what sort of music you want to play, followed by what exactly you want to do with it, and then build from there...

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by re:dream » Mon May 27, 2013 4:27 pm

I am a complete amateur. I am looking for something simple. Basically, I want to go beyond using the crossfader around with me mouse :P

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by TomViolenz » Mon May 27, 2013 4:36 pm

If you want to stay in Live, I'd think an APC 40 and some scripts plus a DJ mixer would be good.
If you are willing to change to Traktor for DJing NI offers some quality hardware for different levels of involvement.

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by re:dream » Mon May 27, 2013 4:41 pm

what does an apc 40 give me that an mpd32 doesn't?

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Jack McOck » Mon May 27, 2013 8:45 pm

Beyond the cross fader, sure, but unless you know what you want to do, you're taking big risks with your money. For example, how many tracks do you want to have playing; what effects do you want per channel, or on the master: that sort of thing...

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Timbeaux » Tue May 28, 2013 7:03 am

maybe get a LPD 8 first (around 35 euro)

u have 8 pads and 8 knobs.

I use knob 1, 3 and 5 for EQing and knob 7 for an autofilter @ Deck/Track/Channel 1.

Pads are really usable for EQ-Killswitches or activating effect routings.

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I have this controller for 3 or 4 years now, and its rock solid. works like the first day, and it feels more quality build then the nocturn (i tried it in a music shop). Only negative things are the length of the knobs, they are a lil bit short.

or maybe just get a Evolution UC 33 (around 100 euro as used gear):

I just read about it, never tried

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by stevemac » Tue May 28, 2013 12:16 pm

I have a Xone:K2 and Launchpad setup now and the more I play and customise the better it gets. Working on a new mapping at the moment (which is in another thread).

Serious amount of control and super compact (soundcard is built in to the K2 as well).

Pretty sweet!

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by Timbeaux » Tue May 28, 2013 12:48 pm

oh yes the xone:k2 seems pretty sweet (but maybe 199 € is too much 4 him/her) havent had that on my radar.

audio interface shall not be thaaat good. but who knows. i didnt tested it

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by stevemac » Tue May 28, 2013 12:54 pm

I questioned the audio quality of the card but many a review assured me this isn't something to worry about.

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by re:dream » Tue May 28, 2013 1:28 pm

Thank you! The xone seems really sweet but I think the LPD will be closer to what I actually need...

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Re: Behringer Tweakalizer

Post by stevemac » Tue May 28, 2013 1:40 pm

I'm using LP and an a K2 together and it's so compact and feature rich that it's replaced the APC40.

It's like having an APC40 except it fits in a backpack and the soundcard is already dealt with.

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