Re: Ableton Live 9 - Dear God... No.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:02 pm
I find it hard to believe that they will not come up with some kind of a fix for larger libraries down the road in some future upgrade.
Excellent points! I seriously thought I was doing something incorrectly when I was unable to view "type" and "date" at the same time. I have no understanding of why it was designed this way.Angstrom wrote:So. There we go folks. Theres Nothing wrong with the browser because this guy says so, it's the users using it wrong.
Forget your destination, trust the bus driver.
Do you need to see creation date and media type at the same time?
No you don't
Do you need to put your own creations at the top of the menu, perhaps in your own bespoke folders?
No you don't
Do you want to use your established folder structure, or naming methods as a way of accessing your content?
No you don't
Do you expect to create your own data "category" filters, sort or hide the factory ones,create your own taxonomic classifications, drag your clips into "clips", search by date, search by partial match, search Boolean, have an actual non-hierarchic interface to the data?
Apparently : No you don't.
whenever a user has an issue with the browser, they are told "no you don't", you are doing it wrong.
It is NOT an issue of learning to use the system, or of the user throwing away old projects and content and conforming to a new way of working, it is an issue of a sub- par system which does not perform half as well as the underlying database would allow it to.
At some point I will make a detailed explanation of why they should not have used fixed hierarchical (OS filetree emulations) taxonomies for "sounds", and should have understood that properties and attributes should not be set as mutually exclusive when categorising mixed media content for a diverse userbase. Especially as the rest of the db is set up as a metadata - matavalue key: value system. It's nonsensical.
Let's say you are a mechanical engineer, and somebody asks you to get in their "new" car, and you can see that it's a "cut and shut" . Two sub frames welded into one car. The driver says "hey forget what you know, just get in, it will be great. Abandon your objections and get into my great car, that giant weld is meant to be there".
No. It will not be great. No, I will not get in
Ouch ! Dude !!!anstahc wrote:What drugs do I have to take to understand even one line of what Blendtron said?
You'll quickly use to unlol and think about redundancy as others are probably unsure when a new Blendton thing appears, if they will try to or noteyeknow wrote:I loled
Exactly.SuburbanThug wrote:Heh...
Wait,
what???
Folder not keyboardFunk N. Furter wrote:What kind of shortcuts?
it depends on how your library is organized. if your kontakt libraries are mixed in with other samples that need to be accessed directly from live (via indexing), you're in trouble. but if your kontakt libraries are in a separate location, just make sure to not index that location and you'll be fine.UCAudio wrote:I use a large collection of multisampled kontakt instruments... not as much as the OP but probably 1 to 2 TB worth. Does this mean Live 9 will be pretty much unusable for me? A lot of film/tv/video game composers use very large multisampled libraries... does this mean Live 9 can't be used for scoring because of the new browser? 20 minutes to search for and load 1 instrument sounds insane.
I thought people unable to be under some centueies of sound to work with would be more on a pro-HDX sounding audio workstation we, from our amateur if not less point of view call a mastering studio or just studio, well, how stupid I am anyway ..scientist wrote:it depends on how your library is organized. if your kontakt libraries are mixed in with other samples that need to be accessed directly from live (via indexing), you're in trouble. but if your kontakt libraries are in a separate location, just make sure to not index that location and you'll be fine.UCAudio wrote:I use a large collection of multisampled kontakt instruments... not as much as the OP but probably 1 to 2 TB worth. Does this mean Live 9 will be pretty much unusable for me? A lot of film/tv/video game composers use very large multisampled libraries... does this mean Live 9 can't be used for scoring because of the new browser? 20 minutes to search for and load 1 instrument sounds insane.
i'm in 100% agreement with angstrom on this entire thing. the live browser is a complete mess.