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Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:40 pm
by bigluc
Forge. wrote:My son just installed it so I'm going to let him be the guinea pig, but I just got pro tools and Avid recommends not doing it yet

PLus I can't find a single mention of it on the Steinberg site for my UR22 and my FW410 was abandoned at Lion and even the drivers they did do don't seem to allow my inputs to work. They work fine on windows under boot camp

Given in most of the ways I actually liked OSX it seem's to be going further and further away I think I'm going to sit this out.
I've tried Pro Tools 9 and it works, and I've heard 10 and 11 are working. I haven't thoughoughly tested 9 though, so do so at your own risk.

They say to wait, but it'll take them a long time to get an update out.

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:12 am
by revoltcrew
ableton says current stable version won't work "flawlessly" under mavericks.
well, it doesn't work "flawlessly" under mountain lion or 10.6/7 for that matter. there are bugs.

waiting for 9.1 is just as much a hassle as waiting to install 10.9 for the perks.
either way, we're seeing loads of success for 9.0.6 under 10.9.
able schmable... if your drivers/plugs work. do it 8)

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:20 am
by Machinesworking
Because no one else has mentioned it. This would apply mostly to those of us from the USA who watched the 08 elections.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBzXVHoF-pI

Made me wonder if the people behind the name thought of this?

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:37 am
by maybenot
first time I upgrade OSX by impulse, and as expected.. troubles..

Ableton 9.0.6 or beta run fine for a while, then slowly I start hearing crackles until the point I have to restart the computer for this to get fixed (temporarily)
Recording audio works for about a minute also, then it sounds as if I had the buffer at 1 sample..

Not sure if this is Ableton or the Interface..

imac 3.5GHZ i7
8gb Ram
Komplete Audio 6 interface
8O

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:01 am
by lll
Macbook pro 2012 with live 9.06 is faster than newest beta of 9.1 on Mavericks

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:15 am
by lunabass
i'll be skipping this update and waiting on OSX Iceman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_BEJmY911s

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:16 am
by Forge.
lunabass wrote:i'll be skipping this update and waiting on OSX Iceman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_BEJmY911s
then if we follow on in a kind of word association is the next one "OSX Heisenberg""?

That would actually be cool... naming it after Physicists I mean ;-)

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:23 am
by spektralisk
Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that I upgraded to Mavericks yesteday. I'm in the middle of the project. I'm on Live 9.06 (I guess this is most recent stable version).

Everything is working fine. I had crashes, but these are standard ones I get anyway. I even feel that Live9 is working better now, I mean faster - creating tracks is faster and so on. Overall I feel the new OS is more responsive and faster. Looks like these core improvements really work.

I even think that my firewire audio connection has improved. I use Focusrite Saffire, which is a legacy product I think it's not supported anymore.

Problems with audio got worse when I upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion - when on heavy cpu load I get audio dropouts, pops and all that shit and when I switch to integrated audio soundcard everything works fine - I guess something went wrong with firewire driver when switching from Snow Leopard to Lion. But now after upgrade to Mavericks it seems to work better. I still get those dropout but in smaller degree I think.

Plugs seems to work ok too.

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:47 am
by lunabass
Forge. wrote:then if we follow on in a kind of word association is the next one "OSX Heisenberg""?
or allow straight up rhyming for the pop vocalists amongst us "OSX Hindenburg"

i joined this forum on this day Thur Oct 24 2002, 11 years to the day and still my posts add no value

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:21 am
by Ubik
Hi,
I'm usually not an early upgrader but i'm curious if anyone tested it with a mbox2 ? I had a lot of pain with it with 10.8...
Any report of ni komplete ?
Thanks !

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:08 am
by Forge.
lunabass wrote:
Forge. wrote:then if we follow on in a kind of word association is the next one "OSX Heisenberg""?
or allow straight up rhyming for the pop vocalists amongst us "OSX Hindenburg"

i joined this forum on this day Thur Oct 24 2002, 11 years to the day and still my posts add no value
happy forum day!

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:08 pm
by TomViolenz
I will wait before up-dating till it is obvious that all bugs in any third party software I use is ironed out:

But this:
Jon Siracrus on ArsTechnica wrote: Memory compression is a triple play for Mavericks. It's a performance win; compressing and decompressing data in RAM is much faster than reading from and writing to disk, even an SSD. It's an energy win; the less time spent moving data between RAM and disk, the more time the system can spend in its idle state. And finally, it's a capability win; Mavericks can handle much more demanding workloads than previous versions of OS X before crying uncle.
Read here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/17/

Has gotten me very interested!
How is the RAM requirement of Live affected by this when using large sample libraries?
Could anyone that already made the jump, test this?

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:43 pm
by revoltcrew
maybenot wrote:first time I upgrade OSX by impulse, and as expected.. troubles..

Ableton 9.0.6 or beta run fine for a while, then slowly I start hearing crackles until the point I have to restart the computer for this to get fixed (temporarily)
Recording audio works for about a minute also, then it sounds as if I had the buffer at 1 sample..

Not sure if this is Ableton or the Interface..

imac 3.5GHZ i7
8gb Ram
Komplete Audio 6 interface
8O
99.9% sure thats your interface. have you checked for proper updates to interface drivers, cuz your mac looks plenty fast enough.

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:01 pm
by an3@
there is a huge export audio bug: Dunno the exact specs of the bug but when connected a externa lmonitor every export aufio after the 1st freezes the whole system, sometims showing the export dialogue box (where u pick the options) in yellow.

happens also without an external monitor but less often and i do not need to hard shutdown the sytem

i wish i did not upgrade :( but u can only once..

macbook air 11.6 2012
maverick
thunderbolt connected external monitor

Re: OS X Mavericks & Ableton Live

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:04 pm
by Moosebear
Excuse my noobular question, but if I follow Ableton's advice, and install the 9.1 Beta on my new MBP with Mavericks, am I going to have to re-install once they go to release?

And I'm trying to understand, why would someone (like revoltcrew below) be suspicious of Ableton's advice, wouldn't Ableton be in the best position to know what is least likely to cause problems? Why would revoltcrew suggest it's a "hassle" to wait for 9.1, if the beta works now?


https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/mav ... atibility/
Thanks for any advice.
revoltcrew wrote: waiting for 9.1 is just as much a hassle as waiting to install 10.9 for the perks.
either way, we're seeing loads of success for 9.0.6 under 10.9.
able schmable... if your drivers/plugs work. do it 8)