Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

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Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by manasseh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:38 pm

This goes for export, freeze and consolidate - all using a single core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zciCg2vkF0
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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by antarktika » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:45 pm

... on your PC.

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sorry, just seemed a sweeping generalization.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by kitekrazy » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:34 pm

Nope the OP is right on this. Reaper is very good at this. BTW, this is old news. Someone pointed this out with Reaper vs. Sonar.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by manasseh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:50 pm

I used reaper as an example, could've been sonar and cubase too - they both export/freeze in half of the time
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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by artpunk » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:34 am

Implying something is obsolete is perhaps forgetting that ongoing development may eventually address multi-core implementation?

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by timothyallan » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:20 am

I've got 24 available hyperthreaded cores in this Mac Pro and Live only uses 1 of them when rendering. 7 minute tracks sometimes take 20 minutes to render.

Logic, on the other hand, chews through rendering using a bunch of cores.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by DJTIVA » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:13 pm

The longer I am using Ableton the more it gets on my nerves. I am really honest about these feelings. I am also on a new Mac with 16Gb Ram and several i7 cores. When using Ableton you never get the feeling being on a fast computer.

Using external gear is still complicated in Ableton when talking of automation in Arrangement View and the program crashes quite often.

I am hoping for Bitwig to come out and solve some of the anoying things I find in Ableton.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by Guillermo Barrancos » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:44 pm

Then tell me why there is a special TAB in preferences called CPU?
Which lets you set Multi Core/Multi CPU support for both Live and Rewire. :roll:

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by manasseh » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:49 pm

Why? So live can assign the available cpu cores across all tracks during playback. I mentioned single core use in freezing/mixdown only
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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by 3dot... » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:57 pm

If this is only for offline processing I don't mind that much...
would be nice if it were faster.. but meh..

Reaper is known to be the most CPU/memory efficient DAW... seconded by Cubase
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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by manasseh » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:59 pm

Not for you, but I often have to do offline bounces for live backing tracks..
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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by pencilrocket » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by kitekrazy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:04 am

manasseh wrote:I used reaper as an example, could've been sonar and cubase too - they both export/freeze in half of the time
It really proves how Reaper is very resource efficient ove3r most DAWs out there.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by Guillermo Barrancos » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:06 am

This thread jumps out the most: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=172654

What is striking is that Ableton completely ignores this. No official comment anywhere in any of these threads.

I guess, seeing how they are handling Push and it´s fiasco. No surprise here. /shrug

Bitwig needs to launch sooner than later and massive amounts of people jumping ship.
Maybe then Ableton will finally get a wake up call and snap out of their sheer arrogance and go back to their roots and start interacting again with their customers.

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Re: Why ableton is obsolete in multicore efficiency.

Post by timothyallan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:50 am

What fiasco??

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