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Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:35 pm
by glitchrock-buddha
Can't wait for the Diva update with the Arp and Obie filter... sound demos I've heard are pretty cool.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:47 am
by Sibanger
glitchrock-buddha wrote:Can't wait for the Diva update with the Arp and Obie filter... sound demos I've heard are pretty cool.
I also am very excited about this update. Sounds fantastic.

Any one know of the expected release date ?

Soon ? :wink:

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:12 am
by deva
Sibanger wrote:
glitchrock-buddha wrote:Can't wait for the Diva update with the Arp and Obie filter... sound demos I've heard are pretty cool.
I also am very excited about this update. Sounds fantastic.

Any one know of the expected release date ?

Soon ? :wink:

There is the arp and also a sequencer... and the two can work together. It is quite a unique setup... nothing like it in any of my other softsynths or ones I have demo'ed

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:44 am
by ian_halsall
I use NI all them time - Massive, Kontakt, Reaktor - I own FM8 and Absynth as well but I rarely use them.

For my type of music the first 3 are more than I will ever need.

I love NI products - what can I say.

Get Komplete.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:29 pm
by XSIMan
Sibanger wrote:
glitchrock-buddha wrote:Can't wait for the Diva update with the Arp and Obie filter... sound demos I've heard are pretty cool.
I also am very excited about this update. Sounds fantastic.

Any one know of the expected release date ?

Soon ? :wink:
The ilok problems made u-he get behind their planed release dates for their new plugs. The wait is killing me a JP 8000 with an Oberheim filter and they are programming it to have better sound quality. Urs last mention was it is coming soon.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:31 pm
by UncleAge
XSIMan wrote:The ilok problems made u-he get behind their planed release dates for their new plugs.
What ilok problems?

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:33 pm
by JuanSOLO
login wrote:All those synths are excellent. BUt from NI I would get Reaktor,
yep I would say Reaktor first, and if you feel like you need something after that get it.
There are some amazing synths built in Reaktor.
So far all of the paid for ensembles have been fantastic too.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:57 pm
by ezelkow1
UncleAge wrote:
XSIMan wrote:The ilok problems made u-he get behind their planed release dates for their new plugs.
What ilok problems?
pace had a ton of server issues. While this was going on apparently they only give customers 30 days to download their signing software, and u-he missed out on their download window.

Just makes me hate dongles and PACE even more, it just screams 'we treat our customers like shit'. Its not enough that you have a dongle hanging off for some POS protection that doesnt work, but they even limit the download time of developer tools??? Thats just ridiculous and serves no purpose

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:39 pm
by UncleAge
ezelkow1 wrote:
UncleAge wrote:
XSIMan wrote:The ilok problems made u-he get behind their planed release dates for their new plugs.
What ilok problems?
pace had a ton of server issues. While this was going on apparently they only give customers 30 days to download their signing software, and u-he missed out on their download window.

Just makes me hate dongles and PACE even more, it just screams 'we treat our customers like shit'. Its not enough that you have a dongle hanging off for some POS protection that doesnt work, but they even limit the download time of developer tools??? Thats just ridiculous and serves no purpose
I was unaware that Pace/Ilok had anything to do with U-he plugs. I have/had MFM2, Zebra2, Uhbiks, ACE and Filterscape at one time or another and they were just serial number activated.

Is he switching to Pace authorization?

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:43 pm
by UncleAge
Never mind, I found the relative posts on the u-he forums. It seems as though the pace stuff has to do with the AAX support.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:30 pm
by ezelkow1
UncleAge wrote:Never mind, I found the relative posts on the u-he forums. It seems as though the pace stuff has to do with the AAX support.
Yea it is solely for the signing tools for AAX support, not actually integrating PACE into any of the u-he plugins

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:52 pm
by XSIMan
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Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:46 pm
by XSIMan
U-he don't use ilok or pace to protect their plugs but the new Protools AAX format requires Pace to sign off the AAX versions forcing u-he to buy signing tools activated with pace which they didn't get in time because the servers were down then they got the new activations and they expired straight away.

I think Lawyers designed Protools 11 is the saying now.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:15 am
by 132nonamemk\
u just need atleast 3 OSC. 2 is fine too.

as long as you can chain effects and eq behind it, you can make 1 synth sound like any other synth.

for starters, i would recommend whichever synths have the most tutorials on youtube lol

for starters, understanding the oscillators and how tweaking it will change the sounds is most important. after you learn that, you're pretty much good to use any synths out there.

Re: 3 native instruments synths vs 3 u-he synths

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:23 pm
by Cool Character
The best three synths is probably a mix of both companies.
Ace and Massive can probably be dropped from the lineups:

Zebra, Diva, FM8.
Zebra, Diva, Absynth.
Zebra. Fm8. Absynth.

If you eventually got all four of the synths, there'd me no more question.