How do I make more creative drum loops?

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by john gordon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:42 pm

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by pepezabala » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:43 pm

fingertap on your desk while listening to your beat. record that with the inbuilt mic of your laptop. extract groove. throw groove into a midi channel, select appropriate percussive sound.

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by Steve Ballmer » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:51 pm

Layer, pan, automate, reverse, side-chain, destroy, cuddle.

Oh, and use Japanese percussive sounds.
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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by H20nly » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:40 pm

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by TheNobleNemesis » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:41 pm

pepezabala wrote:fingertap on your desk while listening to your beat. record that with the inbuilt mic of your laptop
I tried this, and it has proved to be very useful indeed! However, there is an obstacle, that of my drum beat always having a white noise that at first seems inconsequential, but really affects my midi notes. Would you recommend a higher quality microphone of sorts? And if so, what kind would you recommend? This white-noise isn't just in Ableton, I've tested it all over the place and this noise is unshakable. Solutions?

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by Steve Ballmer » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:42 pm

TheNobleNemesis wrote:
pepezabala wrote:fingertap on your desk while listening to your beat. record that with the inbuilt mic of your laptop
I tried this, and it has proved to be very useful indeed! However, there is an obstacle, that of my drum beat always having a white noise that at first seems inconsequential, but really affects my midi notes. Would you recommend a higher quality microphone of sorts? And if so, what kind would you recommend? This white-noise isn't just in Ableton, I've tested it all over the place and this noise is unshakable. Solutions?
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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by ikeaboy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:33 pm

Good thread, all I'll add is if you are going for something complicated then it's rarely one draft with one technique. Complicated/abstracted results are reached by degrees by applying successive simpler ideas on top of each other.

On the other hand try using rhythmic cliches with classic drum sounds and focusing on your bassline and other elements, maybe thats where you need focus?

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by ikeaboy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:43 pm

Just because everybody knows it doesn't mean its bad, often the opposite!

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by Citizen » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:39 am

Steve Ballmer wrote:...cuddle...
This.

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by kevwestbeats » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:34 pm

variations don't have to be large to have impact. take out a kick drum or a high hat. layer a long release 808 under a kick on a new bar every whole note i like to put lfos and delays on things to change it up. just do something to make it different every so often.
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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by tintala » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:11 am

listen to some Indian music...

may i present Ravi Shankar for some inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWCiLexilY

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by Mirthan » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:20 am

My suggestion is to get weird.
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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by regretfullySaid » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:53 am

Scientology.
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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by Martin Gifford » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:13 am

Convert hit song melodies to high hats - as best you can. Use open hat for emphasised words, e.g. "Help me if you can I'm feeling down" becomes:

t t t-t tssst t t-t tssst t-t.

Adjust volumes of each hit until you get a good groove. Really gets you out of the straight 8th and straight 16th mindset. 8)

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Re: How do I make more creative drum loops?

Post by H20nly » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:20 am

^ ha! nice one!!

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