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Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:52 pm
by lolalola
Perhaps it's something glaringly obvious, but I'm not seeing it.
I have a 707 kick here on midi track one, in a rack. I've recorded it two audio track 2. You can see in the screenshot that it's not in the centre, rather, it's panned to the left. And I don't know why...? In the drum rack itself it's centred! I have other stuff in that rack which have delays, reverbs and other processing on them and stuff, but nothing on the kick.

The little green clip in track 2 is the original kick sample, which is a mono sample.

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Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:10 pm
by chapelier fou
Because the original file is stereo.
The display in simpler can be confusing, since it accepts stereo files but only displays the left (?) channel.

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:39 pm
by TomViolenz
Well, either the original sample is already panned (but you said it was mono, right?!), or the drum rack chain for that kick is panned.
Since the little meter on the end of the drum rack is already panned, I don't see any other possibility.
What happens if you drag that Simpler alone to a different track?

(Or there is another drum send affecting the kick that you forgot to mention, or the drive send you have has some panning capabilities in the device...)

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:49 pm
by lolalola
chapelier fou wrote:Because the original file is stereo.
The display in simpler can be confusing, since it accepts stereo files but only displays the left (?) channel.

No, it's mono - that's the original file there, in green on (audio) track 2

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:11 pm
by ga29
check the drum rack return channels. Looks like there is a delay and verb in there so that might be the key.

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:28 pm
by chapelier fou
sorry i read too fast.
Yep, check the effects in the chain, and your drum rack's mixer...

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:09 pm
by yur2die4
Sit closer right speaker

All fix now!

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:21 pm
by lolalola
yur2die4 wrote:Sit closer right speaker

All fix now!

Yeah, I've decided to just do that ... ?

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:55 pm
by silversurfer60
Your drum rack is the preset kit granular stretch and if you would look into the chain of the kick, right from the pads in the rack, you would see, that pan is there on 20 L!!

So open your eyes if you modify a drum rack for your own usage.

Re: Why is this kick panned slightly to the left....?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:31 pm
by TomViolenz
silversurfer60 wrote:Your drum rack is the preset kit granular stretch and if you would look into the chain of the kick, right from the pads in the rack, you would see, that pan is there on 20 L!!

So open your eyes if you modify a drum rack for your own usage.
Or he could just read the thread he made ;-)

(I had suggested to look at the chain pan yesterday :roll: )