Question about Cracked Versions

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ObiKaNobi
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Question about Cracked Versions

Post by ObiKaNobi » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:08 pm

Got a question for you all about the ableton software. As we all know plenty of people pirate audio and program software all the time. Ableton is obviously heavily pirated. So, as we know a lot of famous producers get caught using pirated or cracked plugins and software. Does doing so cause any degradation to the final product? For example, theoretically speaking a cracked instance of Massive is perfectly identical to it's authorized counter part, no? What about the ableton software itself. Is a pirated version identical to the authorized version? What difference does it make on the computer itself, what differences exist if any?

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by panten » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:28 pm

Cracked copies of Live leave an indelible watermark on the exported audio. If a certain frequency is isolated there is an audio watermark that can be decoded by Ableton..

short answer.. don't do it, they will find you.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by Angstrom » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:55 pm

I found that the audio files from cracked versions have a watermark, but it can be removed. The water mark is the letter "C" embedded in the wave file. If you open the wave in an editor such as Notepad++ and do a search and replace for "C", replace it with "0". Now Ableton will no longer be able to track this wave file on soundcloud or youporn.

Thanks to forum user R-h3nk3 for this tip.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by Galt » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:46 pm

I started off with a cracked version, then went paid, but then switched back to the cracked version as I felt it had a "warmer" sound to it. I know this is a personal thing, but I like what I like.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by nathannn » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:47 pm

Angstrom wrote:I found that the audio files from cracked versions have a watermark, but it can be removed. The water mark is the letter "C" embedded in the wave file. If you open the wave in an editor such as Notepad++ and do a search and replace for "C", replace it with "0". Now Ableton will no longer be able to track this wave file on soundcloud or youporn.

Thanks to forum user R-h3nk3 for this tip.
Great advise, youporn and spankwire are becoming my uploading favs .
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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by beats me » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:35 pm

ObiKaNobi wrote:So, as we know a lot of famous producers get caught using pirated or cracked plugins and software.

Famous producers wouldn’t be famous if cracked software caused problems in their mixes. So go for it. You’ll be fine.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by H20nly » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:27 pm

this is your standard bangin EDM track waveform:

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the software was paid for and it has a phat VST limiter after the legit VST compressor after the mastering preset on the master channel.
this track was number 1 on beatport 7 times.




this waveform is a track made by someone using cracked software:

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notice how the track in this second image is all open and cracked out looking... no Pro would ever make a track that looks like that.
it's totally amateurish, the person who made it probably thought they could get away with an EQ and volume edits. noob factor 11.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by Florian-Schneider » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:08 pm

ObiKaNobi wrote:Got a question for you all about the ableton software. As we all know plenty of people pirate audio and program software all the time. Ableton is obviously heavily pirated. So, as we know a lot of famous producers get caught using pirated or cracked plugins and software. Does doing so cause any degradation to the final product? For example, theoretically speaking a cracked instance of Massive is perfectly identical to it's authorized counter part, no? What about the ableton software itself. Is a pirated version identical to the authorized version? What difference does it make on the computer itself, what differences exist if any?
They might be identical in theory, but some secret emails the NSA got from Ableton (which they sent to me) state that they made a divine conctract. When you use a pirated
copy of Live and have Wifi or Bluetooth active at the same moment, *HE* will recognise, and you will be send directly to hell.

So stay legit to be safe.;)

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by eyeknow » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:21 am

I think crack talk should be locked.

@H2O, haha!

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by esaelectronics » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:39 am

i think many people use the crack version before buying,
so in the end it creates more customers eventually.

the only difference with a crack is that you wouldn't feel
to have helped those who helped you create your music.
After all what you put into something is linked to what you
get out from the experience.

some people never pay for things, thats just life and what
does it matter- its down to one's own conscience,people can
get quite quite angry about this subject but why not
concentrate on what you do in life and how you think.

All debate is good it feels good to go legit,
controlling anything too tightly creates a situation like
sand flowing through a tightly clenched fist.

Abletons protection system i think creates the right balance,
if the product is loved by people they will eventually buy it,
unless they really cannot,in which case then it is not a loss.

ableton is great!,i love it:)

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by cmreal04 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:31 pm

Really, jump off something very very high onto something very hard.


Oh and Merry Christmas.
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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by ObiKaNobi » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:31 pm

cmreal04 wrote:Really, jump off something very very high onto something very hard.


Oh and Merry Christmas.
Thanks?

I'm gonna assume the attitude is from the assumption that I use a cracked version? I don't. I'm just curious of the differences? Shouldn't be that big of a deal to ask, lol...

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by eyeknow » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:32 am

esaelectronics wrote:i think many people use the crack version before buying,
so in the end it creates more customers eventually.
This is false. But of course people know that already. I HAS A DEMO. If you can't figure it out with the demo, you're just a fucking crackhead. People crack because they are cheap ass bastards. (and most of them have mommy and daddy to flip the bill so please spare me the "some can't afford it" BS :) )

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by re:dream » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:48 am

I like how people who use cracked software and have concerns about it always pretend it is someone else they are talking about when they post.

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Re: Question about Cracked Versions

Post by Tagor » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:15 am

I`ve got this in my Licencse History - anybody can tell if i can resell some of them ?

Live 9 Suite (Upgrade)
Push
Live 9 Standard (Upgrade)
Live 8 Download
Live 7
Live Lite 7
Live Lite 5
Live Lite 4

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