Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

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Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by john gordon » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:40 am

We all know the weakest area of Ableton is it's audio engine..
Surely Bitwig must have taken note and worked this out.

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by kb420 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:42 am

Do you really think it's gonna shit all over Ableton? That's a lot of shit man. :?
H20nly wrote:fuck Bitwig.

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:58 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by jlgrimes » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:00 am

What is wrong with Abletons audio engine?

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by kb420 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:08 am

jlgrimes wrote:What is wrong with Abletons forum users?
I have no idea at all.
H20nly wrote:fuck Bitwig.

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:12 am

:lol: :lol:

Keep 'em comin' boys........keep 'em comin........

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:14 am

jlgrimes wrote:What is wrong with Abletons audio engine?
It's 20-40% worse than bigwigs.

za zing!!!!! After 10 years, it's still funny.

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by nebulae » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:00 am

wow, this brings back memories.
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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by qwerty rapper » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:26 am

.... :x :x :x :x
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BITWONG


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bitwig cant go wrong
when u rewire it to the new bitwong
u will be pumpin out a dope ass song
i love me some skunk in my bong
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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:28 am

Do we have mute/or ignore functions on this forum? If not, let's get on that "chop chop!"

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by Tarekith » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:30 am

I have a blog post coming tomorrow with before and after examples, as well as some phase cancellation tests showing the differences. Statistically, things are about what we would expect down to the least significant bit, though dithering might cover that anyway. Well, depending on what kind of dither Bitwig uses, I haven't got a clear answer yet as to which Bitwig is really using, looks weird on the meters. Live really stepped up to the plate with the POW-r stuff, so unless Bitwig is using something like MBIT+2, I don't know how they expect to compete against Live at this point on that front, whew!

On the plus side, the fader curves and panning laws in Bitwig are a lot better than Live, they're only down about -0.008dB at unity when both channels are summed and M+S cancelled. Looks like Bitwig finally realized people are sick of the choice of a 3dB or 6dB pan law and split the difference at 4.5dB's. Honestly it's about time someone finally took that leap, so props for that.

The audio difference when automation is in use make it a bit more confusing though. Live definitely has more definition up to the last 10% of the automation range, but Bitwig must be using 128bit curves, because the amount of resolution at the top of the scale is commendable for an app in this price range. Seriously game changing stuff, provided you have the accurate metering in your studio to make sure you're not clipping that close to 0dBFS. My guess is more pro's use Bitwig for this reason, but that's just a guess.

Oh, and fuck off with people thinking stuff like audio "engines" (where do you put the gas?) actually matter in this day and age. Go make some music people and stop worrying about the stuff that doesn't matter one bit. Pun intended. ;)

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by nebulae » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:40 am

:lol: :lol:

You have to do more of these bullshit data-filled posts. So many red herrings, such little time...
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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:49 am

Let me rip off querty rapper....

Yeah, audio engine
talkin' about it ain't no thing
your all wak back in the sonar sack
get of your ass, get your groove back

Don't take so long worryin' bout a thang
make the phat beatz and make your blang blang
cuz you don't want to get wacked
get your music going, make sure it's stacked

How'd I do "q"? Please be gentle with me. It's only my first rap.

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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by qwerty rapper » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:57 am

eyeknow wrote:Let me rip off querty rapper....

Yeah, audio engine
talkin' about it ain't no thing
your all wak back in the sonar sack
get of your ass, get your groove back

Don't take so long worryin' bout a thang
make the phat beatz and make your blang blang
cuz you don't want to get wacked
get your music going, make sure it's stacked

How'd I do "q"? Please be gentle with me. It's only my first rap.
you know eyeknow
u brought it fast then dropped it slow
you brought some flow, ya know?
keep it up, do some mo'
gotta go, i have a show
ready reindeers? ho ho ho!
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Re: Will Bitwig audio engine shit all over Abletons?

Post by eyeknow » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:02 am

:)

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