Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:21 pm
where do I enter the serial?
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The Great BitWig Migration
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Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:25 pm
goddammit I will lose my project anyway it seems arrrgggh
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:41 pm
pelsik wrote:the interface is honestly ableton but a few things moved around
flattery by imitation, bordering on infringement no doubt? If it looked almost exactly like an Apple product it would be in litigation by now.Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:42 pm
Quote of the day:
macbeat wrote:Now with this I would agree. Trying Bitwig really does make you appreciate Ableton Live more.
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:03 pm
I just demo'd it for about 90 minutes and basically have the same impression. There is a lot I like better than Live, but I really need grouping and freezing. When those things are implemented I might consider buying it during a sale.pelsik wrote:after 2 hours on the demo my honest not too biased opinion:
short version: better than expected but missing key basic features
i know a couple people were saying earlier they wouldn't switch because they don't want to learn a new DAW. ill start by saying the transition is almost seamless after a hour or less of tinkering any Ableton user will feel comfortable enough to make legitimate song. the interface is honestly ableton but a few things moved around
the pluses:
1) multiple audio in 1 clip (downside tho will explain late)*
2) 32/64bit internal bridge is big for me
3) cutting/splitting audio and midi
4) cool plugins like one that lets you put multiple instruments/vst in 1track and let's you blend them or automate to transition between each other
5)opening multiple projects at once
the negative (why ableton has nothing to worry about atleast with version 1)
1) no freezing
2) no legitimate cpu monitoring
3) no markers
4) no true in-clip automation/modulation for volume/pan
5) no grouping (live's grouping isn't good but its better than none)
6) no tap tempo
and those are just the ones i noticed
and it crashes 3rd party plugins often but that'll be fixed soon, probably (easy re-load but still annoying)
and quirky things: from what i can tell, the zoom is unified if you zoom out in 1 clip you zoom out in all clips for everything including notes (even in session view)not a deal breaker but quirky
overall i actually really liked it, the GUI is better than live (at first i thought the opposite but side by side bitwig looks way better). its not going to replace ableton or come close but i actually enjoyed using it, it's easy to use and has the comfort ability and familiarity of ableton.
hopefully ableton starts incorporating some of these features ..competition is always a good thing for the consumer
I was also really hoping the piano roll would be more like FL Studio (multiple commands with one "tool", and note length memory).
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:06 pm
Yeah, the piano roll editing is annoying.
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:30 pm
Bitwig also misses:
groove tools
time signature changes
tempo data on midi clip import
sending midi data between tracks (cannot record the midi output of an arpeggiator for example)
no option to show vst gui's when switching tracks
no direct macro mapping in the vst gui
no midi step recording
no rewire
...
groove tools
time signature changes
tempo data on midi clip import
sending midi data between tracks (cannot record the midi output of an arpeggiator for example)
no option to show vst gui's when switching tracks
no direct macro mapping in the vst gui
no midi step recording
no rewire
...
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:39 pm
No AU, no multiouts/multitibral, no grouping,
I'm just laughing all day because people seem to WANT SO BADLY to make it something it's not. What it is is a very immature newcomer with hair gel. I'm sure some things are better than live, but it's not a live killer.
I'm just laughing all day because people seem to WANT SO BADLY to make it something it's not. What it is is a very immature newcomer with hair gel. I'm sure some things are better than live, but it's not a live killer.
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:40 pm
no crossfaderdeva wrote:Bitwig also misses:
groove tools
time signature changes
tempo data on midi clip import
sending midi data between tracks (cannot record the midi output of an arpeggiator for example)
no option to show vst gui's when switching tracks
no direct macro mapping in the vst gui
no midi step recording
no rewire
...
Like I said earlier, this program seems very premature. Certainly, it's in no way capable of replacing Ableton Live at this point in time.
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:41 pm
I forgot though, they DID release a bug fix update already though, so I mean, in time I'm sure it will be fine.
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:53 pm
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:56 pm
Yeah, it didn't take a genius to see through that minor deception. The man acts like he's on Bitwig's payroll.stringtapper wrote:FYI.
kennyda = funken
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:11 pm
It's bizarre.kb420 wrote:Yeah, it didn't take a genius to see through that minor deception. The man acts like he's on Bitwig's payroll.stringtapper wrote:FYI.
kennyda = funken
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:13 pm
that would be dick. Bigdick'skb420 wrote:Yeah, it didn't take a genius to see through that minor deception. The man acts like he's on Bitwig's payroll.stringtapper wrote:FYI.
kennyda = funken
and it's not an act. its PMA... what the mind of a man can conceive and achieve, the mind of a man can make himself believe.*
*damn the truth
Re: The Great BitWig Migration
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm
interesting, looks like it probably has pdc issues:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=406913
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=406913