The Great BitWig Migration

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live

Will you leave Ableton for BitWig?

Nope, I'm staying right here.
216
50%
Yes, I'll be part of the great BitWig migration.
52
12%
Too soon to call, I'll wait and see.
120
28%
I intend to use both
44
10%
 
Total votes: 432

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by H20nly » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:21 am

eyeknow wrote:EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe that wasn't so bad. I mean, live was probably laughed off by some as they continued to grow and kinda started leaving some others behind. Acid was prolly the market they were after primarily.

Yeah, you make a good point, cheers!
Someone pointed out earlier that entering the DAW market in 2000 vs. 2014 is a vastly different undertaking.

most of us probably have cell phones with more processing power, and certainly more RAM, than the computers we used when Live was released.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by eyeknow » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:34 am

Ooooops!

Now they are saying that the PDC issue might just be a bug! :lol:

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by H20nly » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:44 am

what the hec do you mean? a bug? inconceivable! Bitwig is OBJECTIVELY better.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by kb420 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:49 am

eyeknow wrote:Ooooops!

Now they are saying that the PDC issue might just be a bug! :lol:
Actually, funken came up with that.
H20nly wrote:fuck Bitwig.

hec
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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by hec » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:52 am

Certain features in Bitwig are objectively better, still holds true. Another to add to that list is appearance. The UI is MUCH more pleasant to work with.

Some of the workflow innovations they've made are incredible. There's a fair share of quirks but once they polish this a little more there's no reason for me to personally use Ableton. This is going to be a phenomenal DAW.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by 3dot... » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:55 am

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by stringtapper » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:13 am

hec wrote:Certain features in Bitwig are objectively better, still holds true. Another to add to that list is appearance. The UI is MUCH more pleasant to work with.
:?

A dictionary could help you out here.
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eyeknow
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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by eyeknow » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:21 am

bitwig, stone cold killa,
comein' atcha, gonna gitcha
with the mad beats, make 'em fatta
people with live....they won't matta

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by login » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:23 am

The GUI is a step backward.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by deva » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:34 am

shadx312 wrote: One big WTF is the longest the LFOs run for are 2 bars. W T F
no way???? 2 bars is 2 little

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by c33 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:57 am

deva wrote:
UncleAge wrote:
c33 wrote:I haven't downloaded the demo but apparently there's a demo noise? And no save and export? Major first impression fail.
No demo noise that i have noticed.
There is no demo noise. I posted that there was because I did not realize some of my vst plugins have reverted to demo mode in Bitwig. I assumed the noise was from Bitwig.
Ahh ok.. I still think not allowing people to fully test drive the software and actually try to make some music with it (no save and export) is disappointing. And it's a missed opportunity for them too.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by H20nly » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:02 am

their idea is OBJECTIVELY better.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by Davo » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:27 am

hec wrote:Certain features in Bitwig are objectively better, still holds true. Another to add to that list is appearance. The UI is MUCH more pleasant to work with.
How something appears to an individual is a subjective impression, not objective. Being more or less pleasant to work with is also a subjective judgement. Neither of these things can be compared objectively. The best you can do to compare subjective impressions is to study prederences of groups. One person stating their own subjective impression about something can never be used to prove that one thing is better than an another.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by kb420 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:46 am

3dot... wrote:Image

The now discontinued Cakewalk Project 5 V2.
H20nly wrote:fuck Bitwig.

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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Post by Machinesworking » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:50 am

Davo wrote:
hec wrote:Certain features in Bitwig are objectively better, still holds true. Another to add to that list is appearance. The UI is MUCH more pleasant to work with.
How something appears to an individual is a subjective impression, not objective. Being more or less pleasant to work with is also a subjective judgement. Neither of these things can be compared objectively. The best you can do to compare subjective impressions is to study prederences of groups. One person stating their own subjective impression about something can never be used to prove that one thing is better than an another.
We've been down this road, hec's subjective opinion in his mind is objectively better, period!
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