Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
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Willyum wrote:Bitwig has a big hill to climb to match Ableton
What hill? What AL features apart from M4L is Bitwig missing?
On the contrary, how long is it going to take AL to have the following Bitwig features:
- hybrid tracks & partial bounce
- layered editing
- parameter histograms & enhanced per-note control
- macro for nested devices
- plugin sandboxing & simultaneous 32/64 bit support
- enhanced mixer page (large faders, cross-track device index...)
- open multiple projects
- metadata browsing
I downloaded the demo and so far I'm not blown away.
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No easy way to swap out out drum sounds after you slice to midi a drum loop.
H20nly wrote:fuck Bitwig.
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One thing is sure:
30days demo trial with save and exporting cannot be beaten.
I guess they didn't dare to demo the same way as ableton do.
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I have mixed feelings about that demo model actually. They both have merit.
I was jamming in Bitwig this morning, and while my little jam wasn't that good, I was a little disappointed that if somehow I did pop out a masterpiece during the demo, I wouldn't be able to save it and continue even if I bought it. However, like Reason's infinite demo, it's nice to be able to crack it open willy nilly as I please, even if I want to give it a shot again in a few months. Reason has the added advantage though of being able to use it exclusively for instruments in ReWire mode, even in demo.
Live's demo version is obviously solid, but I'm always terrified to "begin" a 30 day trial because I'm afraid I'll get tied up in other things, and the 30 days will whoosh past. I've had the 30 day trial of Final Cut Pro X downloaded and ready to go for about six months now, but never turn it on because I'm always afraid of not making good use of it.
That said, I'm sure if you were to send Ableton a support request to reset your activation -- they probably would, within reason.
Tim Tilberg - Duluth, MN | SoundCloud - Arsenal
2011 13" MBP w/8GB ram | Live 9 Suite, Reason 6.5, FXPansion DCAM/Etch/Maul, Izotope Ozone 5
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From the review
in Music Tech
- Missing some in-depth editing features
- Limited layout options
- Dragging song elements from one project window to another doesn’t feel as intuitive as Live’s browser based approach
- Audio clicking when moving between presets
- MIDI mapping ranges isn’t a one click and set process
- Only one colour scheme for GUI
- No custom groove tools
- Dark screen GUI is hard to make out in outdoor lighting conditions with glossy screens