Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

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nc2010
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Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by nc2010 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:51 pm

Hi,
I use a lot Cableguys - Filtershaper (http://www.cableguys.de/filter-shaper.html) in order to do volume / filter automations easily in sync.

But there is a well known delay compensation problem making that it's not always in sync.

In short, do you know if this is solved in the newest versions of Live ?

fishmonkey
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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by fishmonkey » Thu May 22, 2014 10:51 am

in short: no.
badbrainz wrote: I'm a drummer, so I'm already at an intellectual disadvantage here

nc2010
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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by nc2010 » Thu May 22, 2014 11:11 am

Such a shame...

aaronleese
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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by aaronleese » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:41 pm

Seriously .... how long does ableton need to here about some of these problems before they fix them.

In version 9, they have even removed the "plugin delay compensation" dropdown in the preferences.

So ... just sweep the issue under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist guys ... nice.

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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by doghouse » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:36 pm

aaronleese wrote:So ... just sweep the issue under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist guys ... nice.
Just because they haven't released a fix yet doesn't mean they are not working on one. Unless you have all the source code available to you, there is no way to tell how difficult it is to implement.

Other DAWs may not have the problem but you do not know what their source code is like either.

Look at Bitwig...they did the automation right but screwed up other things instead.

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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by aaronleese » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:36 pm

Sure, I don't know what the code looks like.

but I am a computer programmer for several professional audio companies, and I can say, that no matter what the code looks like, this should be a fix that takes months not years. And it's been years :)

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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by fishmonkey » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:58 pm

what kind of code do you work on?
badbrainz wrote: I'm a drummer, so I'm already at an intellectual disadvantage here

eyeknow
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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by eyeknow » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:25 am

aaronleese wrote:Sure, I don't know what the code looks like.

but I am a computer programmer for several professional audio companies, and I can say, that no matter what the code looks like, this should be a fix that takes months not years. And it's been years :)
My cynical side says that there are enough people that are not directly effected that the company feels any pressure to get it done.

My pragmatic side says it must be a larger overtaking because they work on many fixes and though not speedy, are active in the beta community.

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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by pencilrocket » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:28 am

noobs don't give a shit about transient or phasing. who cares?
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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:42 am

pencilrocket wrote:noobs don't give a shit about transient or phasing. who cares?
Actual users obviously.
Make some music!

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Re: Plugin Delay Compensation: solved or not solved in Live 9.1?

Post by eyeknow » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:59 am

dah, actule users!

Ve much bost THROUG the ice and snow and get through that we need "mad beats" and albleton PDC must be fixed for teh furrar to impliment full and complete beat dominance!

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