very odd prob with saving presets.

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musikmachine
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by musikmachine » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:03 pm

topaz wrote:Almost 2 years later and this problem still exists in 9.6

will it be there in 10 ? :mrgreen:
Version or years? :lol:

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:18 pm

i'm doing a big native instruments save, fx instruments etc.

it's happened at least %30 of the time tonight.
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by Stromkraft » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:14 am

topaz wrote:i'm doing a big native instruments save, fx instruments etc.

it's happened at least %30 of the time tonight.
Ouch!

Does the workarounds do it in your case?

I don't think this must be very hard to fix, but it's probably doesn't have high priority as the amount of people complaining about this are few. As it takes just a second to press escape, then return (if I remember correctly) I'm one of them, even if this have happened about 5 times the last 6 months.
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:27 am

Hitting the down arrow works too.
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:49 pm

Just updated to 9.6.1

Still doing it :roll:

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by Sureno » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:41 pm

Yup running the beta and it still does it, but I find after clicking ok just click on another preset and it saves but won't change the channel name

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:55 pm

Hard to believe that almost 3 years later and ableton have STILL not fixed this bug :roll: :cry: :?: :idea: :idea: :|

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by tintala » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:16 am

i too get this

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:52 pm

Glad you had backups :-)

This bug was introduced in 9 with the new browser, and I am still stumped as yo why it is STILL not fixed.

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by jestermgee » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:19 am

I would seriously recommend to not use the Live browser to move files around, just to load and save files if that is the possible outcome you are having. I have seen the error a couple of times when saving a file and the file does not save. Try a second time and it goes through. But I don't use the browser to shift things around at all. I usually right-click and locate the files then move them in explorer.

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by Stromkraft » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 am

abiah wrote:okay this "unknown file ID" / browser-issue just led to a real & substantial loss of data
I'm on Mac and I have never lost data via this issue the few times (Maybe 30 in total) I've had it. How do you know Live deleted the data and that you just didn't displace it? How do you know it isn't the OS? Checked the logs?
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by dnbhallifax » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:22 pm

Been experiencing this for years. It's ridiculous this still happens in Live 9. I personally find it happens 50% of the time, if not more... Especially prominent when saving over presets

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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:01 pm

Its happening right now, almost every time.

What a complete joke that Ableton can't fix this STILL.

BUT. here is a workaround.

HIT tab after dragging.
dnbhallifax wrote:Been experiencing this for years. It's ridiculous this still happens in Live 9. I personally find it happens 50% of the time, if not more... Especially prominent when saving over presets
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:26 pm

I haven't seen this problem in years. It's very possible this is related to file permission issues in the file system and isn't a Live issue. Though the last note in my communications with Ableton support was about the Ableton indexer. I haven't had any issues with the indexer since though.

I do have made deep repairs of my user folder permissions since though. And since I did that I haven't seen this problem, but it's not that I had it a lot in 2014 either.
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Re: very odd prob with saving presets.

Post by topaz » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:48 pm

Oh I can recreate this instantly, folder permissions are set correct.
Stromkraft wrote:I haven't seen this problem in years. It's very possible this is related to file permission issues in the file system and isn't a Live issue. Though the last note in my communications with Ableton support was about the Ableton indexer. I haven't had any issues with the indexer since though.

I do have made deep repairs of my user folder permissions since though. And since I did that I haven't seen this problem, but it's not that I had it a lot in 2014 either.
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