KVR Audio = A warning

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by sxa » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:24 pm

Ernest Meyer wrote:it is my opinion that musicdsp.org should find another host.
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A commercial concern should not be permitted to control what was intended as a public list when it has been in the position of showing bias, whether its bias is right or not. That is my opinion.
facts:

the website musicdsp.org archive has its own server, and has nothing to do with KVR.
the musicdsp mailing list, ie the main active part of musicdsp is still hosted at Columbia
the musicdsp forum was moved to KVR in 2004, at the request of Bram, but doesnt exist any more.

KVR has nothing to do with 'the list.' And the DSP forum at KVR has had nothing to do with musicdsp.org for a very long time

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:36 pm

The documentary was called "My Kid Could Paint," about Marla Olmstead. It was actually released some ago, but it was aired this month, and I found it very helpful personally. My opinion was that the paintings were great, obviuolsy a 4-year-old is always seeking parental assistance, and the child seems perfectly fine. If you have similar issues with others lambasting your work repetitively without contrition, I can well recommend watching it if you can.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by synnack » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:35 pm

Ernest Meyer wrote:Within a few minutes after that visit, the Maxforlive.com server went down, apparently due to a DoS attack similar to that which my site receives on a regular basis.
Hi. I run maxforlive.com. Yesterday I patched the server and made a mistake in overwriting a file that apache needed for the web site to work. A user reported it within 10 minutes or so and I fixed it and had the server back quickly. Usually when I upgrade the server I post on my twitter (@synnack) or on the Maxforlive.com Facebook account so users know it will be done. Since this was a mistake I didn't. Simple error that was fixed quickly.

There was no DDoS. Whatever you are experiencing elsewhere is not related to maxforlive.com.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:56 am

Im delighted to hear it. REgarding Marla Olmstead, I will be bold and quote myself.
I dont know if the Olmstead family ever sees this, but I for one want to say think you very much for a great documentary. I think it's awful what 60 Minutes did to you, no matter how justified anyone could say they were totally merciless and without any aforethought to your family's well being. Beyond that, obviously a child when 4 or 5 is always seeking parental direction. In fact, in my opinion, if the child wasnt asking for help, and you werent helping the child paint in some ways at all, there'd be something wrong with you. And it amazed me how much the paint ended up on the canvas rather than anywhere else. It impressed me how honest you were about all your doubts. As an artist who has been similarly incriminated by others (with far less apparent fiscal reason in my case as I never sold anything for more than a hundred dollars), what I can add is that the hate letters you received seemed at first totally astonishing, that total strangers could write such things. What I have to add is, that maybe you have heard from less people, they were probably not written by total strangers. They were probably written by other people who were also trying to sell children's paintings and were trying to eliminate you as a competitor. There isnt really a rational explanation otherwise, and when I have challenged people who have similarly vilified my work, I never got a clear sense that their replies indicated otherwise than they were attempting to destroy my reputation for their own career benefit. That said, it does not help to say so. They simply hide behind a cloak of anonymity and increase their level of spite. And they hold you to an ever more ridiculous level of righteousness without revealing their true selves at all. I hope you take some of that college money, go have a grand time in Hawaii or something, and paint beaches with joy. Thank you very much again.
And I wish the same to others in similar plight. If you want to side with those who would rather write hate letters to her parents, then please leave me out. Im really not that important any more to warrant your attention. Thank you.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:37 am

And here is someone who even created a website to make derogatory remarks about Marla Olmstead.

http://marlaolmstead.blogspot.com/


It's just incredible how much effort people will make to be nasty for no apparent reason at all, other than to be nasty. The grave looks more attractive every day I get closer to it. I wont have to live on the same planet as such people any more.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by beatz01 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:00 am

Is this some kind of viral reality soap thing or something ? Like, is there soon a link to ErnestvsKVRthemovie.com to be coming ? What does this all mean ? And - who is this Marla Whatever woman and what's her role in the plot ?

Seems like this is going to be a very complex movie.Haven't yet decided if i'm gonna watch it.

:?

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by jbw » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:19 am

I just finished reading this thread and...

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:21 am

hahaha. Marla is a four-year-old girl who was quite good at painting. Her parents sold some of it, then people wanted more, and the price went up, until it even got to like 20 grand a picture. Then 60 minutes did a story saying her parents helped paint them. the parents received hate mail for months. They made a movie about the entire story called 'my kid could paint.' I just remember the mother's expression when she is reading the mails people sent her. That's exactly how I feel, alot more so, since this whole attack you have read pages and pages about droning on and on at me repeating the same criticisms I have answered at least a dozen times now because I wanted a lousy 10 bucks to make an upgrade and refuse to distribute software which ran on pirated versions of Reaktor. So I am saying, this is ridiculous, why would anyone go through so much effort to make me out as some evil person?

But then it transpires, after Marla was attacked on 60 minutes, *other* parents started trying to sell their kids paintings, even in the same galleries as Marla did. Hmm. Now those anonymous hate mails dont seem so strange. there's a reason for them. Maybe they are doing things and other things to destroy competetion.

Because otehrwise, the people putting so much effort into so much hatred and vilification can only be insane. Thats what I have to say. It takes a while to sink in.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by eyeknow » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:33 am

beatz01 wrote:Is this some kind of viral reality soap thing or something ? Like, is there soon a link to ErnestvsKVRthemovie.com to be coming ? What does this all mean ? And - who is this Marla Whatever woman and what's her role in the plot ?

Seems like this is going to be a very complex movie.Haven't yet decided if i'm gonna watch it.

:?
Micheal Bay is doing it.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:35 am

dreat. I was hoping for Michael Moore.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by stringtapper » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:31 pm

Ernest you do great work and I particularly appreciate some of the Gen patches you've shared…

…but you're being completely paranoid here.

There's no other explanation than your critics are either trying to compete or they are insane…?

Really?

Sorry, but THAT sounds insane.

And I still don't understand the whole "releasing patches for cracked versions of software" claim. As if no one could simply have a fully licensed older version of Reaktor on their system…?

Totally bizarre.

But entertaining nonetheless, and for that you have my thanks!

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by Ernest Meyer » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:45 pm

My site was one of the few places where one could download free Reaktor ensembles outside the Reaktor library. When I was on the NI forums only, it wasnt bisited much by other people. But after writing on KVR, it regularly received referrals from cracked forums. I didnt think too much of it either, until my site was hacked and replaced with a pornogrpahic pictures. Now I have a far more rigorous stance in support of commercial developers.

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by eyeknow » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:21 pm

Ernest Meyer wrote:dreat. I was hoping for Michael Moore.
So, blowin' shit up or a mockumentary? I'll take blowin' shit up :lol:

(but please, no transformers! )

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Re: KVR Audio = A warning

Post by memes_33 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:36 pm

hi i uploaded my midi files to souncloud but they sound like tiny cheap pianos rather than the phat synths like in live. can someone help?
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