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Post by ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:45 am

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by login » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:05 am

Durable: Roland

Good sounding: subjective I use one mainly with with Addictive drums, any drum vst will beat the drum sound modules that come with electronic drum kits. If you decide to go this route any kit will serve you well and you could get some good deals second hand, even getting old high end stuff from roland that offers aditional pieces than the standard kit or extra functionality (more sensors in some pieces).

Roland uses "supernatural" sound engine that is in part physical modeling, yamaha uses samples, both are OK. In higher end models rolands offers a lot of editing options and effects. Also almost any module comes with some different kits.

If you play an acoustic set then I think it's important that the drum kit has some features as chokes for cymbals, positional sensor, snare that supports 3 types of hits and even some drum kits can use brushes.

Depends on your budget really, roland and Yamaha offes something at wide range of prices.

If just for fun the TD4KP could be a nice option, http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/1257 it's portable model that uses little space.

Check out this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_V-Drums its quite good to know what all kits come with and their features.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by beatz01 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:11 am

Your username is too long for playing drums, let alone electronic drum kits.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by fishmonkey » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:33 am

for the best sound, and the ability to load your own sounds, the 2Box Drumit Five is the best.

downsides of the 2Box kit are a poor rim trigger design on their pads that breaks regularly...

if money was no object i would setup a custom kit with a 2Box module.
badbrainz wrote: I'm a drummer, so I'm already at an intellectual disadvantage here

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:13 am

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:17 am

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by doghouse » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:33 pm

ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends wrote:which ones are good,durable, good sounding. price is no problem
It's good that price is no problem, because any electronic device that you will be pounding on with sticks needs to be built solidly and that costs money :wink:

Here in the USA, the only professional quality e-drum kits are from Roland and Yamaha.

Simmons, Alesis, KAT, Behringer :roll: aren't even worth looking at.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by beats me » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:22 pm

Looks like there is a shortage of affordable trigger pads that are only that. Bummer. Plenty of people don’t need built-in sounds and don’t want to pay for them.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by Sharp_Kid » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:36 pm

Pound for pound, Roland V-Drums.
We have four of them at the youth music workshops I and a couple of friends run.
They've lasted really well, they're versatile, with the newer versions you can load your own sounds via USB, they have various settings to modify the responses, and if you have the setup to do it you can take a MIDI line out from them and trigger whatever sounds you like.
On certain models there are options for having various types of head as well which make them respond to the way you play more like a real kit.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by fishmonkey » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:33 am

Sharp_Kid wrote:Pound for pound, Roland V-Drums.
We have four of them at the youth music workshops I and a couple of friends run.
They've lasted really well, they're versatile, with the newer versions you can load your own sounds via USB, they have various settings to modify the responses, and if you have the setup to do it you can take a MIDI line out from them and trigger whatever sounds you like.
On certain models there are options for having various types of head as well which make them respond to the way you play more like a real kit.
Roland stuff is well-made, but i find the sounds a bit synthetic, even on the top of the line models. also, i don't think it is possible to load your own kits on any of the Roland modules. one of the best things about the 2Box module is that your can create your own custom kits from drum VSTi's and play them directly from the module.
badbrainz wrote: I'm a drummer, so I'm already at an intellectual disadvantage here

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by eyeknow » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:40 am

They vary GREATLY.

I don't have a per-model break down but many don't do a very good job of capturing cymbals and hats. Toms are easy, kick is usually ok, snare isn't horribly difficult. Also, the built in sounds are ass 99% of the time.

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:42 am

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

Post by fishmonkey » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:29 am

doghouse wrote: Here in the USA, the only professional quality e-drum kits are from Roland and Yamaha.
Pintech and Hart Dynamics also make good gear.

if money was no object i would choose all the best custom drums and cymbals and add a 2Box module (or two).

if space and some noise isn't an issue, and you want the best feel, then it is also worth considering kit pieces that are based upon real kit pieces with triggers, rather than pads.

it also depends on what you want to use the kit for. is it for recording, practice, gigging?

oh, and Digital Drummer magazine is a good source of up-to-date info on e-drums:

http://www.digitaldrummermag.com/HOME.html
badbrainz wrote: I'm a drummer, so I'm already at an intellectual disadvantage here

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

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Re: thoughts on electronic drum sets?

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