Sound Design help programming Big 80's style Drum Fills

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preppietrash
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Sound Design help programming Big 80's style Drum Fills

Post by preppietrash » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:13 pm

I need some help and guidance on how to make big drum fills based on the "retrowave, synthwave, newretrowave, dreamwave" music genre…. I have listed below some examples of tracks that have that unique gated drum fills- in some tracks it's a very subtle fill on some it's right in your face…


So from my reading I believe they were originally made with Simmons drums- which there is a VST called "Simmons drums VSDS-X " but it's for windows only…




my questions are:


1) how do I make these sounds on Ableton Live- preferably using it's built in instruments or free live packs or a 3rd party VST plug-in for Mac)… or if there is a preset/project for NI Maschine software V1.8 which I've never used but if it helps me create these types of drum fills I can start using it-


2) where is there a good resource to see the pattern to do these fills (samples of the midi/piano roll notes and patterns)






my gear list is:


ableton 9 suite with all the free expansion packs and synths it comes out of the box with, Maschine MK2 software V1.8 (i've never used the software I use it as a controller for serato loops and cues) , NI Massive and Arturia Minimoog original, tyrell nexus- and I'm on a mac...




I have the "retro drums Free Vintage Drum Racks" from subaqueous music, and I have some Linn Drum machine sample packs and SIMMONS SDSV EXS pack in Wave files-






Thanks everyone for taking the time and reading my long ass post!








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Sample songs that have the drum fills (with what sounds like tom's) you can go on youtube and they all have videos on the newretrowave channel
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obviously the mother of all gated drum fills= Phil Collins - In The Air Tonight (album version) (around 3:44)






Lazerhawk - So far Away (around 0:45)
Ex Machina - Descent into the Forbidden Laboratory
VHS Glitch - Cala Rossa (around 1:12)
Jordan F - So Close
Miami Night 1984 - Reflex Training
Mowelan - Desert Drift (around 1:35)
Bourgeoisie - The Carcinus Project (around 0:40)
New Arcades - Reflections (around 1:53)
Mega Drive - I Am The Program (around 3:53)
Power Glove - Vengeance (around 2:41)
Action Jackson - Introduction
Teenage Criminal - Hero (Miami Nights 1984 or ActRazer Remix) (around 2:25)
Garth Knight - Juggernaught (around 1:46)
A Space Love Adventure - Nicole (around 0:40)

Asymmetricalmusic
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Re: Sound Design help programming Big 80's style Drum Fills

Post by Asymmetricalmusic » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:11 pm

I got an old Roland DR-770 as a trade

I ran the MIDI out to Ableton and recorded the MIDI patterns.

It took some work but I'm super stoked!

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