Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
Thinking about all i've ever used is the included devices and some 3rd party stuff, i've got 0 interest in creating my own and leave others to do that, all i want to do is make music with Live, i'm not a programmer and i want an environment that works seamlessly and is gonna be robust enough for Live use, i'd be too scared to use M4L devices in a Live set given the stability issues.
I think that the incidence of Live meltdowns with max patches gets massively over represented on the forum. Its like any new live set. Test thoroughly before before going public. That said, I get Angstrom's point. I wanted max 4 live to be a way of reconfiguring Live to meet my needs. What I got was object oriented programming, java script and python. I also got live video, granular synthesis and some freaky step sequencers. But that wasn't what I was initially looking for.